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  1. On February 1, 2017 at 9:26 PM, quit-once said:

    Quitting is a process which includes the actual date and time when you take your very last pill and begin your recovery.  At this time, you are in the early stages of your quitting process, still coming to grips with the reality of an unsustainable addiction.  In this stage of the quitting process, it is important to take a personal inventory of the pros and cons of quitting and if taking speed still has any benefits left for you.  You have to be ready to quit and one of the big things is that the disadvantages of continuing the addiction MUST outweigh the good things you may believe the drug still does for you.  In my case, it quit working and was absolutely working against me in every instance.  It was causing problems with my health and my wealth and well-being.  I had no good reason to continue my addiction besides the fact I knew I could not function without it.  I was totally dependent on a stupid pill (or four)for getting through each and every day.

    So what I am trying to say is that you have to be ready to quit for your quit to stick.  If you think quitting is "something that you think you might like to try and see how it goes" you are fooling yourself and you are simply not ready.  Quitting requires an absolute commitment to the cause.    

    VERY wise words :) You nailed it.

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  2. 13 hours ago, quit-once said:

    do you think the dogs can tell when you are high?  mine sure did.

    Funny because my dog was born exactly 9 days before my quit date. I knew he was going to be coming home, and I didn't want him to ever see me on Adderall. It sounds dumb but he really did keep me going on the hardest days. (He also made some of the hard days even harder lol, damn puppyhood!!)

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  3. Yogichris, all of us here were once in that stage of addiction that he is in. It's full blown addiction. At the stage he is in, he is obviously not thinking about quitting at all. When you question him, he will defend his addict behaviour. It does not matter what anyone says to him, he will not admit that the pills are affecting him in a negative way (even though it is so obvious that they are), he will not admit he is addicted. He will always find a way to justify his addiction. It's just what an addict does. This was all of us at one point in time. 

     

    One day though, it will hit him like a ton of bricks. The pills will stop working, and he will realize his life is in the shitter. From the sounds of it, this could be YEARS down the road for him. And I don't think you should wait around for one second longer.

     

    When he finally realizes he has a problem, he may possibly begin to THINK about quitting. This "thinking about quitting" stage could also go on for a very long time. It is extremely difficult to quit, even if you really want to! It took me two years of "trying to quit" and I can't even count how many attempts (at least 20 attempts) before I could finally make it stick for longer than a couple months at a time. There is nothing you (or anyone) can say or do to make him want to quit. He has to hit rock bottom. He has to admit to himself that has a problem. He has to want it for himself. But honestly, it really does not sound like he is anywhere close to wanting to quit.

     

    If he ever does finally quit, it will not be easy, it will be a LONG and painful road. Just like dadof3 said, you would still have to worry about possible relapses and what not. I quit over a year ago and I still struggle just to get through day to day life. I do not feel emotionally capable of being in a relationship with anyone at this time or any time soon.

     

    I remember you saying you wanted to have kids sometime soon. Get this man out of your life completely so you can heal and find a man who is worthy of your love!! It sounds like you have a lot of love to give. This guy does not deserve a single second longer of your time.

  4. Reading your post is absolutely heart wrenching. 

     

    I've said it before, I'll say it again... All of his behaviour you have described in this post and in your older posts is a direct result of Adderall abuse!!! This guy is a LAWYER - it is his JOB to shift the blame, and he is damn good at it. The fact that he won't even admit that any of his issues are Adderall related is a joke, and it's a sure sign that he is not anywhere NEAR even thinking about quitting.

     

    If you choose to continue to allow him to be in your life, you are choosing a life of heartbreak, sadness, loneliness, worry, fear, etc. There are SO many red flags, and you know it. My personal opinion is that you need to cut all contact and change your phone number, and move on. Find happiness with a man who will treat you the way you deserve!! I know that this is not what you want to hear, but unfortunately, this man will never be that man for you. I am so sorry you are going through this, and I know it has been very hard on you. You deserve SO MUCH MORE! 

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  5. Hey :) Everything you're describing is exactly what I went through in the early months of recovery. I felt SO good and optimistic right after quitting, but it didn't take long for that to fade away. The next few months after that were full of misery. I found things didn't really get any easier for me until about 9-10 months, but noticed some others started feeling positive changes a bit sooner.

     

    Anyway, I found this interesting article a while ago about quitting crystal meth, and it has "the five stages" of recovery. It's kind of interesting how similar the recovery is to quitting Adderall.

     

    Here is a copy and paste of the "stages" from the article here:

     

     

    The Five Stages of Recovery from Crystal Methamphetamine

     

    Stage 1: Withdrawal (Days 0 – 15)

    Withdrawal usually lasts from 1 to 2 weeks, but it can last upwards of 4 weeks—and, in some extreme cases, longer. Also known as the “sleep, eat, and drink†stage, your body and brain are in healing overdrive. There’s a lot of damage meth caused that needs to be repaired before you can move forward.

     

    Stage 2: The Honeymoon (Days 16 – 45)

    The crash has lifted, your body has made those immediately needed repairs, and you are feeling physically and emotionally much stronger. You might even feel great, better than you’ve felt in years. And it’s only the beginning of the third week! Unfortunately, this upswing can lead to overconfidence and you might find yourself minimizing your past meth problem.

    A lot of people will relapse here because of this overconfidence. But not you. You are prepared. You understand this Honeymoon won’t last. Still, there’s much to enjoy while it does.

    And much to do in the meantime, while you’re feeling stronger.

     

    Stage 3: The Wall (6 Weeks – 4 Months)

    You hit it hard. All the positive, forward momentum from the Honeymoon crashes around you.

    A seemingly insurmountable Wall of depression, boredom, and despair—it begins about 45 days into sobriety and it continues through month 4 or thereabouts. Rarely, however, does the Wall last longer than 3 months. So, keep in mind, it’s going to get better.

    The Wall is often where people will relapse. You so want the feelings of boredom and loneliness to pass, crystal meth seems like the solution again. Though the danger of picking up is highest here, you can get past it.

    Let’s look at what to expect and what you can do to get through this stage of your recovery. The Wall is not impossible to overcome, just tricky.

     

    Stage 4: Adjustment (Months 4 – 6)

    You’ve gotten over the Wall safely and it is now mostly behind you. The next stage is called “Adjustment†because that’s what characterizes this time period—adjusting, physically, socially, and emotionally, to life without crystal. You get relief from the overwhelming cravings and begin to find life interesting again.

     

    Stage 5: Ongoing Recovery (Months 6 – 12)

    Toward the end of the first year clean, crystal meth addiction can seem distant and almost tangential to your life. Or, it can be something you continue to think about, fleetingly, almost every day. Like all things on this timeline, it depends.

    I like to call this part of the quitting journey “Ongoing Recovery†(also known as the “Resolution†stage) because, despite how foreign your crystal dependence may seem, it’s important to remember that meth addiction is a “chronic disease†and you are never cured.

    Recovery is always ongoing.

     

     
    Here is the article if you are interested in reading the whole thing: 
     

    http://www.quittingcrystalmeth.com/the-5-stages-of-meth-recovery/

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  6. Yay!! 6 months is huge!! I remember around that time being very difficult for me. Even just minor stresses were magnified by a million. The worst anxiety I have ever had! 

     

    Nowhere but up from here though. It will only get easier for him :)

  7. Congrats on 6 years free of Adderall, and congrats on one year sober!! Like I always tell you, you are such an inspiration to everyone here and I admire you SO much!! You are truly "goals" :) 

     

    I love Joel Osteen so much too. I always feel so good after listening to him speak. I follow him on Facebook and it's nice to have his little inspirational messages pop up throughout the day. I think I need to make an effort to listen to him more often though! 

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  8. Reading those comments makes me so angry inside!! There are tons of people on here who never abused their prescription and are still having a hell of a time getting off the drug. I know some people may disagree with me, but I personally truly believe that there is not one person out there who "NEEDS" this drug. Nobody "NEEDS" amphetamines to live. And as we all have unfortunately learned - taking Adderall is not something that is sustainable long term!! 

  9. Seeing a shrink is good. If you can blow off all the insanity this world creates and be perfectly fine with it all those are the crazy people. My God look at this freaking election makes me feel somewhat better you can be a complete lunatic and be president or a total liar either way it's crazy.

     

     

    Haha yes Frank!! This election is a complete circus!! Makes me thankful to be Canadian right now. My goodness. Lol

  10. Yay! You can do this! Christmas is a good time to detox.. I had originally planned on quitting during Christmas last year, but then there was a weekend in November where I hadn't taken any pills on the Saturday or the Sunday, and I woke up on the Monday morning and thought to hell with it ... and I didn't take any pills that day (or ever again after that). Work sucked pretty bad that week, but I made it through. I will say I really struggled with Christmas parties and other holiday obligations for all of December. That was a SUPER rough month. But somehow I did it and here I am almost a year later! Finally starting to feel like myself again! :)

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  11. I'm not where I want to be even yet but at a place I'd rather be. Looking back on adderall towards the end I was in awe of anything anybody did without addrerall. I felt like a per-school child who got up and went to school all day without adderall was in fact was a stronger self willed individual than myself. I was looking at the world like Im a cheat a fraud all that I'm doing is fake and in a way it was. I looked back at my pre-adderall self like then I was superhuman forget all the glorious all night binges where I thought in my mind were mandatory. It was all fake and was tired of living this artificial life style. That is what really made me quit plus it wasnt doing much but making me a strung out junkie last couple years somehow functioning but my careless ways are costing me now money blown on stupid things never off adderall would I be so wreck less with my money. I wish you luck and cold turkey or step down can work just do it however you can.

     

    Frank, I was pretty careless with my spending when I was on Adderall too. I bought a brand new F150 and two houses. Now I'm stuck in a job and a city I don't wanna be in. Paying for it now. Long term, I know I'll get my money back out of the houses, so I know I'll be alright there. But let's just say I likely wouldn't have made these decisions had I not been on Adderall at the time lol

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  12. Yes - you will be pretty much useless for a while when you quit... but there is definitely hope on the other side. At almost one year clean, I am finally getting an increase in energy and motivation that I thought would NEVER come. I was pretty useless for a long time after quitting. But you just have to get through it and know that it does get better. Progress has been slow but steady. Every day is a little better than the last.

     

    Just think - the sooner you quit, the sooner you get back to being your true self, and back to being happy without depending on pills and without planning your whole life around pills. The longer you stay on the pills, the longer you're putting off a happy life. 

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