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It'll be a month this Thursday, but apparently I'm not allowed to talk about it yet according to some of you. It may be a little premature to be trying to help others on here. I'll come back sometime in the future and make a new thread about it. Feel free to ignore me if you don't want to hear the way I see it. I don't see this as "recovery" at all anymore... even telling yourself that you are recovering makes you feel like it's still a part of you. You should be telling yourself "The recovery portion is already GONE and I am an adderall-free person". It's ALL mental after a few days of being tired. Feeling good or bad has nothing to do with the recovery process. You are what you focus on. If you are always thinking of your lack of energy, you will always have a lack of energy. If you are constantly telling yourself your energy is better than ever, and you catch yourself every time you think negatively, and you do this for weeks, it will become part of your unconscious mind. It's scientifically proven and it's a major focus in psychology.

1. No, last time I was still smoking cigarettes, eating unhealthy, not working out, and was taking zero action to change anything in my life. I was always tired when not on adderall. This is not the case right now. I am not bragging, I am just responding to your negative thinking. 2. I don't "keep a bottle sitting near me", it just happens to be sitting right in the other room in a drawer and I am not thinking about it. I'm not concerned with relapse, brother, but I don't feel the need to flush anything. I have friends who would probably want them for studying or something. If you are going to lecture me on that, spare yourself the wasted time. 3. You can't tell me you have done "more research" on Tony Robbins. What a ridiculous thing to say when you clearly have no idea what he does. His stuff is FREE right on youtube and I have not given him a dime... most people don't give him a dime and do the same. I'm not saying "look at me"... you are just being negative. I am 100% on the same page as Stealthology... I am only feeling better and better and thinking less and less about adderall... ZERO part of me wants to go back because I felt like shit all the time when I was using. If that offends you, then that is your problem.

You seem to have the wrong impression of Tony Robbins. By no means is there any brainwashing going on.... It's the same principles in any "get off your ass and make your dreams happen" guide... Read any business book ever and it will tell you that you need to set goals for yourself and you need to be able to manage yourself before you can manage others.... read any book on neurolinguistic programming and it will tell you that you can change your state of mind like the snap of a finger. The fact you even bring up the possibility of relapse (or what could go wrong) shows me you don't quite understand the confidence I feel... I can understand how I would relapse if I was always focusing on what could go wrong, but I have not thought about doing adderall at all, I have a half full bottle of it sitting 5 feet from me that I haven't touched. I'm done. I can talk about it openly and have no fear that I will relapse. Again, I'll post again in a few months and confirm I'm still good... I literally just rocked an interview to work as a programmer for the innovation center at the best university in the country (I can send you a picture of the email if you want proof)... I am about to go to the gym, and I feel better than ever... I want to let the people who think they are a prisoner to adderall that they can completely overcome it almost immediately. Physical and mental damage my a**... I am in better shape already, am sleeping well, and mentally feel a clarity I haven't felt in a long time. It's not easy to DECIDE you are done, but once you do, and know it's not a part of you anymore, it can become easy... at least for me. Again I know it's only been a few weeks but so far so good, time has been flying.

I have more energy than ever and it's all natural. It's been almost 10 years since I felt this good.

So I relapsed back when I wrote this and went the last several months in the same direction. I did, however, quit adderall completely 3 weeks ago, and I feel fantastic. I am proof that it is ALL mindset as I have felt great ever since I quit. It has also been 4 weeks since I have had a cigarette, and 3 weeks since having a soda (my most persistent addiction)... I have been working out and eating healthy, but most importantly, I have been setting goals for myself. 3 weeks may not sound like a long time, but it is the longest I have gone without snorting adderall in 7 years... by 2 weeks... and I used to keep all my other bad routines the same while not on it. I never gave quitting a serious try, but I can tell you right now I'll never have it again. I feel better than ever and have changed my life around. The KEY to quitting something or changing habits is to know exactly who you intend to become. If you still identify as the same person, you will be fixated on those habits... If you identify WHO YOU WANT TO BECOME, you can identify AS THAT PERSON and that is how goals are met. I have been watching a lot of Tony Robbins videos recently that really helped. There are too many to list, but the point is you can control your emotions at any point in time. I hit a real light switch one day and suddenly everything became more clear. I will post here in a few months from now, and in a year from now, and I will still be adderall free and happier than ever; I promise.

I didn't take any for the interview but i took some the night before when studying. Haven't had any since then. I didn't take any for my buddy's bday It's been 7 days. feelin' alright

Thanks for the responses! Haha I don't need to get new friends. They don't affect my consumption decisions. Either way, 2 days now and I have a big job interview tomorrow. Would it be a bad idea to just eat one (rather than snorting 5 or 6 of them) to help from dozing off? I probably won't even feel it, but it might help me stay awake. I am leaning towards not doing it but I don't think it would be a big deal personally. My bigger immediate concern is a big fat cold sore that decided to pop up just in time for the interview. God damn what bad timing. Clearly stress induced.

Hey guys, I just came across this website. I am addicted to adderall, as I'm sure you've either guessed by the title or the giant wall of text you can see waiting below. You know how it is... awake for 40 hours and I can't tell if my writing came out impressively descriptive or a wall of nonsense. Ignore spelling and grammar errors as I'll be passing out as soon as type the last word. I am addicted to abusing adderall, always via insufflation (snorting). It is definitely an addiction and, like many other people, my adderall use is dedicated to social situations rather than the intended purpose. I drink heavily while on it sometimes with friends... but I usually just do a bunch of adderall by itself when alone. Mentally, I've always had and promoted a super positive attitude about life and kept a sense of humor about everything. I think pretty deeply, and I find I am reducing everything to logic more and more and make less effort to base anything on emotion. I have had my share of existential crises in the past, but I also love positivity am always very optimistic. Either way, I might as well just start from the beginning of the adderall relationship. One Year on Adderall & Four Years I forgot about it The first time I took adderall was from a friend at 17 years old. I ended up going in to get tested soon after, thinking anybody can get a prescription if they just act a little distracted during the testing... well it worked, and I got my script. I am still convinced only a small fraction of people who are prescribed to adderall actually NEED it to function... the rest of us initially just use it to function BETTER whether we admit it or not (just my opinion). I took it for most of my senior year in high school, and even then I started to pop double the dose sometimes for pretty much no reason at all. I started to get these tics where my ears and shoulders would always feel like they needed to be stretched. It got to a point where it hurt so I just stopped taking adderall cold turkey and was completely back to normal after a month of being slightly tired. I just didn't think about it and I am now dumbfounded as to how I was able to do that with no effort. I went through college (business school) without taking it or thinking about it at all. I took it once for finals and had 2 extra that I forgot about on my desk, and when my friend found them I told him he can have a blast. There was no desire for it in me. If I hadn't experienced it myself, I'd probably be convinced right now I'll always be an addict. I personally believe addiction a mere perspective, and can be turned off with the right attitude and mindset. There are physical effects until the drug leaves the body, but after that it's all in the head. Rediscovering Adderall and the spawn of a terrible addiction This was not a relapse. Adderall never had any control over me before this point. Immediately after college I went out with a girl from my hometown. I was tired and decided to take just a quarter of a 20 (5mg) and see if it would wake me up. After a very successful date, I felt like a new man. I started popping 10mg before going out everywhere I went, and that year was a temporary window where I felt like a god. Everyone wanted to be around me and girls were fighting over me. I was so relaxed, confident, and on point with everything that was going on around me without putting any effort into it at all. I felt at peace with myself at all times and nobody could have brought me down if they tried. Of course if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. I repeated this process and was frequently overly tired at work, left my job, was going out all the time and totally ignorant about my habits. It was probably around then I would refuse go to a big social event with friends if I was out of adderall. At some point I began to snort it occasionally so it hit faster/harder, and it just became the only way I do it. I honestly don't remember a specific moment where that became a thing for me but it's been that way for 3 or 4 years now. As with most drug abusers you chase the high, which requires exceeding the previous amount. When taking 20mg feels weak, snort 10 more, and so on. I remember the first time I did 60mg at once. It was in a hotel room with a friend who wanted like a 5mg bump and didn't like it. I broke up 3 20s and snorted it all, and had a great night. 60 was now the new high. That was about 2 years ago. THIS is where my actions began to have opposite effects: I began to snort it by myself and stay up all hours instead of saving it for when I was going out. At this point I often don't go out when people invite me because it's like a 50% chance I haven't slept since the previous morning (like this exact moment as I write this). Most of my successes of the past 2 years have been when I am sober. I was accepted to an accelerated software engineering school and saved up for it while working as a lab tech. Being completely sober at work I was always super relaxed, liked by my boss, effective, and I got a lot of numbers. I dated 2 girls from there for a short period. I would still take adderall at night and on weekends. At software school I was down to adderall on one weekend night per week, was doing 80-100 hours of work every week without adderall, and finished at the top of the class.. Most of my downfalls come from adderall. I don't let myself go out without being super high on it. Both of those girls I took out at that lab job initially stopped talking to me after the first date, and then I convinced them it was because I was on adderall. One of them gave me a second chance and when we went out sober, like at work, she was really into me. I ate a small amount one time a month later when we were out somewhere and she noticed immediately and asked if I was on it, saying my pupils were dilated. She left me soon after. Not a big deal, it just speaks to how I don't have my shit together. During the software program, I took an adderall one morning towards the end and had a panic attack while presenting. Mostly, people look at me like a robot when I'm on it. I don't really feel emotional connections like I used to... I worked a contract job for a bit as a developer and since the contract ended I am just in bed doing adderall any chance I get and waiting for interviews. If I take some, I know I won't be sleeping until the next night and I've stayed up 3 days multiple times. When I crash, I sleep for like 16+ hours and still feel tired. Even the days I go out now and am not a normal human to other people because I'm always tweaking on adderall. I change subjects of the conversation, or keep uninteresting conversations going too long. I feel the need to say everything on my mind, and not pay attention others' signals, and I am only loosely aware of my own body language and tone while talking. Strangely enough, the term attention deficit never felt more fitting for the state of mind of a person on a lot of adderall. I feel fragile and weak, I'm in bed all day, I have no car, no money, I'm losing friends, people don't respect me anymore, and frankly it's a reflection of my not respecting myself. This is the first time I've explained this in this much detail and it already feels good reading others' stories and getting the motivation to make it happen now. I've been telling myself I will quit after next saturday for my friend's birthday party people are throwing, but I am not going to. There is always "one more time". Plus I am always taking it as if I am hiding my sober self from the world even though my sober self is so much cooler. Makes me want to kick this cheap addiction's ass and forget about it. I don't want rehab; again, I have never bought into the "once an addict, always an addict" belief and I see it as 100% mental... with a little help from my friends. The last time I took it was 8 hours ago and the disappearing wings of adderall insomnia are flickering my focus. I'll check back tomorrow. If you have any suggestions as to what may help me keep my mind on track the first 30 days, I'd love to hear it! I already plan on making other big changes at the same time to take the focus off the adderall. Exercise is definitely crucial to ridding myself completely of this addiction. Thank you anyone who listened and even if nobody did, it's nice to have a place where people have similar problems. TL;DR - adderall ate my brain - HALP!