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  1. Please Help... :(

    Your reasons for wanting to take adderall sound so much like mine. Adderall made me stop obsessing about food because it killed my appetite. On adderal I was finally free to think about non food related topics. Here is what I have found to be true from my experience with adderall. Adderall got me skinny in the short term but as you can see it is not a long term solution to staying thin. We can be slender off of adderall but we have to find out what works for our bodies and we won't find that on adderall. Adderall will cause you to postpone finding a sustainable solution to your obsessive relationship with food. IMO adderall plus an eating disorder is an extremely dangerous combination. I have an eating disorder and I suspect that is why I had such horrid health issues as a result of taking adderall - because I was not getting enough calories. Here is what I think you should do....Stay off adderall and get treatment for eating disorder. I apologize if that sounds harsh. I don't mean for it to sound harsh but I'm not very good with words. Also give yourself a break and congrats for being off for two months!
  2. New Hobbies

    I took up pilates and gardening. I'm growing some sweet potatoes and plan to plant some peas and jalapenos this weekend. I also got a bike. I haven't had my own bike since college. Now I ride almost every weekend. Oh and chess. I started playing chess!
  3. Has adderall affected your physical health?

    InneedofhelpBP, you are the first person I have heard mention vein pulsations. I think I have this and I've been clean almost three months but I still have the pulsations all through my body. Did yours go away? How did you know it was vein pulsations that caused your symptom? Did you see a doctor for this? I want the pulsing to stop and have no idea how to go about achieving that. Thank you for any info you can provide on this. it seems rare and I will appreciate any info you can share with me.
  4. Day!

    Hi Kim. I don't know how old you are but I'm 42 and took adderal for about 12 years as prescribed at low doses 20-40 mg per day. I never took more than that in a 24 hour period. I can tell you I am having hella health issues Which is what forced me to quit. I thought I was going into early menopause. i don't think that anymore since I quit because the hot flashes stopped since I quit but it took a while for that to stop. there is a hormonal component to this stuff. Like you I took for years and years and never read about long term health consequences bec I didn't want to know. Well now I'm finding out first hand what it can do to your body. My skin is so thin and veiny. Boo boos on my legs take forever to heal - like 6 months to heal a flipping ingrown hair. Since I quit I swear I am shrinking. My finger tips look waterlogged all the time. I dont know if this is from getting old or adderall but I think adderall because my husband is 8 years older than me and his finger tips don't look like mine.. I don't have time to post details of all of my health issues but here are some major ones so far: vericose veins that are not just ugly but painful and expensive to treat and painful to treat. I have some weird pulsing sensation in my head and all over my body really - I don't know what is causing it but I can tell you it's the adderal that did it to me because I remember when it started I had just taken adderall and horse chestnut which is a horrible combination and I didn't know that at the time but I know now after researching it. Please be careful and listen to your body. My experience is that low dose long term use is not safe.
  5. Excessive fatigue

    Congrats in getting off this stuff. Welcome to the board. When I exercise first thing in the morning it makes a difference in my energy that lasts a day or two. For me, It's easiest to exercise when I first wake up because that's when I feel most rested. For a while I took liquid B vitamins every morning before working out but had to stop because my B12 level got too high. B12 gave me an immediate boost of energy to help me start the day. Other than that, sleep well, eat healthy and take your vitamins is the only advice I have. I think time will be the best medicine for the fatigue unfortunately. You're not alone in this. Hang in there.
  6. Blood pressure higher off adderall, wha?

    Holy crap that sounds scary. I had to look that one up. I just got off the phone with my doctors office and my blood work and urine sample came back normal for everything they tested for including kidney and liver function. I wonder if I had a short stent of this like you did because I remember my pee looking kinda brownish right around the time I quit. Good lord this drug is bad.
  7. I took adderall 20-40 mg for 12 years. Not once in that 12 year span did a single doctor tell me I had high blood pressure and in the span of 12 years I went to A LOT of doctor appointments. My blood pressure reading was always Normal, sometimes it was low. Since quitting (approx 3 months ago) my blood pressure has actually gone up from what it was while I was on adderall, but I'm still in the normal range. Most people I read about on here had high blood pressure on adderall and the blood pressure went down after quitting. Toward the end of my use I swear I felt like i had high blood pressure but my numbers don't correlate. Has anyone else had this happen? I'm confused by this and I'm having some health issues so wondering if this is part of it. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks.
  8. Today is a good day !

    Yay Frank! Glad to hear it!
  9. Kay, have you considered that it might be Pulsatile Tinnitus? I just read about it and it seems plausible. Not trying to alarm you in any way - obviously I'm no doctor. Just trying to figure this out too.
  10. If you find out what it is and how to stop it please let me know and I will do the same.
  11. There is no doubt in my mind my head throb was caused by taking adderall. Like you I was also at a low dose when it happened. I've had other physical issues I'm dealing with too and had not gotten around to asking about this one yet but saw your old post weeks ago and had intended to reply. I think it is A result of the the build up of pressure. Maybe we narrowly avoided a stroke who knows. How old are you? I'm 42. Do you suffer from any chronic health conditions? I have been diagnosed with veinous disease and I wonder if these things could be related.
  12. It does seem too extreme to be anxiety and that is why I doubt it's anxiety too. When it first started happening what were you feeling physically and was it the day after you stopped taking it or did it start while you were still on it? Here is how it started for me: I think it was the day I quit or the day before I quit, I literally felt like I was about to have a stroke or heart attack or something. My body felt like the titanic that just hit the iceberg and steam was pouring out (not literally but that's how it felt). It felt like a lot of pressure had built up inside my body and it was about to blow and the result was this pulse and throb I could feel throughout my body including my head. Is that how it started for you? I also had the pulse throb sensation in my feet at night but that has stopped for the most part.
  13. I have but it does not sound the same as what you are feeling. I have what feels like a pulse in my head or a throbbing sensation in my head since quitting. Stretching and exercise helped a little bit but I can still feel it. It's not painful just a concern that makes me think I've got some long term damage to my body. However like you i have googled the crap out of my symptoms and all I can find is that it could be caused by anxiety, but I don't know if I really buy the anxiety thing.. I do suffer from anxiety so I do hope that is the cause. I also hope you find relief soon and find out what this is. I wish I could make it go away for both you and me. I also agree with Frank that you should maybe try a chiropractor. Have you tried accupuncture? If I had unlimited time and money I would do both of those things.
  14. Scared to stop.

    It's difficult to say exactly when things got better for me because I had a relapse and I think I went into mild psychosis at the end (even tho I was on a low dose of approx 10-15 mg per day). When I finally quit I felt very confused and disoriented and it has taken a while to get my head back on straight. Still working on that a little lol. If you haven't read about PAWS be sure to. It helps explain some things. I'm not actually in a recovery program. I say I am in recovery because my body is still physically repairing itself. I think it will take months maybe years before I am fully back to "normal" physically. I'm older now than when i started adderall so sometimes it's difficult to know whether I feel lower energy because I'm older or if it's because I'm not fully recovered physically from adderall. It's probably a combination of the two so I'm keeping my expectations in check. When I first quit there were days where my body was so happy it was like being sober was the new high and I wanted to shout it to the world! That felt really good and helped offset the miserable days. Things that helped me get through working (i could not take any time off). I slept in my car during my lunch break. I had two little pillows and a blanket in my car and would nap from 12-1PM and then eat soup at my desk after my nap. Put lots of turmeric and cayenne pepper in my soup. Also what helped for work, I take a thermos of coffee with coconut oil and no sugar to get me going in the morning. I pack my food for the day when I go to work: fresh fruits and veggies, pumpkin seeds, walnuts, dried fruits (mainly cherries) and meats. I eat healthy food all day long so I'm never hungry or feeling like my tank is low. Drink water all day too. I lay low as much as possible now. I was late on some things and I disappointed my boss and co workers with my poor performance and I am working to make it up to them but I'm also working on my "I don't give a flip" attitude and that has helped me not worry so much about missing a deadline or two. After all, other people have sucked worse and i am a valuable employee who cares about doing the right thing (positive affirmations). I take a supplement from whole foods that I think has helped my brain get out of the fog. It has ginkgo and fish oil, velvet bean and some other things too. I took l-tyrosine at first and it did make me feel happier but it also seemed to cause muscle twitches so I am not taking it anymore but it def helped with my mood. I also take B12 when I get out of bed every morning. Sorry I'm skipping all over the place I'm not a very well organized writer. From what I have read though everyone is different so you gotta find out what works for you. You sound like you are going to do really well off this stuff. I bet your body is going to be very pleased with your decision.
  15. Scared to stop.

    Thank you for sharing your story. You and I took it for about the same amount of time. Your reasons for quitting sound very similar to my reasons. I know what you mean about being scared to stop. I felt the same way the whole time I took it. Like you, adderall stopped working for me those last few years and all that it seemed to do was make me feel sick but I still could not stop, until my body forced me to stop when the valves in my leg veins failed.. Looking back though, I should not have been scared which is why I wanted to reply to you. Even tho I'm still in recovery, I feel better physically now. And I have hope. I also feel real feelings again and have had several really hard belly laughs - you know when you laugh so hard that your tummy muscles get sore. That never happened on adderall. I guess my point is that you have so much enjoyable life ahead of you after you stop this poison. Don't get me wrong, the first few weeks are hell there is no denying that. It will be hell for you too I suspect but it's temporary and it will pass. The grass really is greener over here. I'm excited for your quit! I guess that's kinda weird but whatever. Welcome to the boards!