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  1. Alcohol

    Alcohol and Addy definitely have some correlation to each other... When I was on Addy I feel like it helped me perform during the day however when I would go home at night I would feel edgy with a touch of anxiety. Alcohol curbed that feeling and helped me sleep also; however my tolerance to Alcohol went up significantly. Also in social situations I would do both and with that combo I'd rarely feel drunk... Now having quit Addy I stopped drinking during the process for 6mo or so. I now still drink occasionally however I really watch myself. Usually a glass of wine with a nice steak etc. Only a couple times since I drank too much and still oddly I don't feel very drunk even when I drink too much however the hangover whatever high dose damage drinking does is simply not worth it!
  2. Quit quitting

    Gosh I feel for you... Even myself after 3yrs still have that lingering feeling of what would just one pill would feel like... The euphoria of Adderall has poisoned us all. Being sober now 3yrs besides an occasional drink; I look at my kids and their friends on how happy they are without a single substance having ever altered their minds. I often wish I knew what I know now when I was their age as I believe every substance is mind altering & has an additive effect in slowly altering our minds to dim a little more and more. When I first took Addy it was like wow, this is my life saver. This is how I should feel... And it did last quite a long time until it slowly didn't. I found I felt good but I literally became a little frozen. I began to be less productive and didn't know why, I'd up my dose and feel better and be productive but it was temporary. I started having crashes and some days just didn't feel well. I started having angry moments that were more of a rage than anger in a situation that had some justification for anger but I couldn't control how angry I got. Oddly I also recall not feeling the effects of getting drunk while I was using. I could drink a decent amount and hardly get a buzz... I first started cutting back drinking and started eating healthier & tried exercising but nothing helped this up and down unwell feeling I had. Then I cut Addy and wow was my world upside down... I think for me the combo of realizing what this made me feel like after years being on it and knowing the euphoria was running out, then getting off of it and seeing how it had full control of me; this was enough. Yes, I daydream about "one pill" but will never go back after all it put me thru! I think the sooner you can quit 100% the more likely that one day you will have your full happy self without medication.
  3. 15 months off adderall, 9 days on Wellbutrin

    So happy to hear you found something that helped! I didn't experience any luck with Wellbutrin however I can say I started it when I was likely not fully detoxed from Adderall and my anxiety was super high. I felt super jittery on it and couldn't keep taking it. It has been a common remedy for some and I hope its positive effects don't diminish for you. Keep posting your progress as it could help others in the future!
  4. Zoom meeting Invite

    Awesome you figured it out! Zoom is a great tool and what a perfect use with this topic and especially during Covid for those interested to share their experiences and help each other! Unfortunately this Friday I will be on the road to Los Angeles however I hope to join next time assuming you all decide to do it again.
  5. At this point I only take L-tyrosine. I used to also take 5htp and intermittent mucuna pruriens. Plus a bunch of other things trial and error that didn't seem to help. All of theses I listed have subtle effects. Mucuna shouldn't be taken every day but maybe 3 days then 1 off. See if it helps after 2-3 weeks, if not no sense in taking these. On really bad days that I needed a boost I drank a Bang Energy drink once in awhile. Lots of caffeine and no sugar. Will get you thru a bad day or situation you don't have the energy for. I wouldn't recommend energy drinks for a daily thing, just mention it as it saved my ass on days I dragged so badly I would have lost work without the help. I'll see if I can think of anything else. Nootropics never helped me specifically however I can say a lot of reading had me convinced some would help but really didn't for me... I also feel like cutting back on sugar helped, whenever I had a lot of sugar I would crash hard. Eat healthy and try to exercise!
  6. Here is what I can tell you on these specifically: L-tyrosine: Is a precursor to Dopamine. Very subtle effects however I do believe it helps to take this 2x daily. Morning and lunch time. Phenibut: Is not good. It works on the gaba receptors and will have similar side effects of Benzo's when you try to stop. It is mainly used for sleep of bad anxiety. I'd avoid it due to the dependency issues. Phenylpiraetam & Adrafinil are both stimulants and somewhat similar to Modafinil. Both have been used to treat ADHD and low energy. I found Adrafinil to make me jittery. I only slightly experimented with these. Centrophenoxine: Never tried this. Is an interesting one, I don't see as much harm in trying this one as it mainly works to increase acetylcholine for memory and cognitive boost.
  7. Wellburtin feels like adderall?

    @sweetupbaaby I’m so happy you found something that helped! There has been a strong consensus on this site that SSRI’s haven’t helped many with PAWS and honestly can say I have spent hundreds of hours researching what Adderall does to the brain and what remedies are out there to help recover. I literally have educated my doctors and they have thanked me for the insight I have given them for future patients. Doctors don’t spend that many hours specifically studying what we have all experienced and few even believe Adderall has a withdrawal period beyond 1-3mo. Yet you are right I am not a doctor. In the end each person has to take the advice of doctors and others that have been thru this into consideration and decide which step is worth the time and effort to see if it works. Resorting to more meds is a hard one for me as it takes time to see if it helps and takes time to get back off it if it doesn’t. I hate the idea of what the process will be like to remove that drug from our lives down the road. Hard to know the end game and what is best. SSRIs like you are on are fairly harmless for most so it is great that it is working for you and one day you can likely taper with subtle side effects.
  8. Wellburtin feels like adderall?

    I think if you are going to try a prescription Wellbutrin is the way to go, I know it has helped others here. Celexa could possibly lift depression a slight bit however from my experience SSRI's will also make you very lethargic. Wellbutrin will help with depression and give you a slight lift. Some doctors stack the Wellbutrin on an SSRI however I never went that far.
  9. Wellburtin feels like adderall?

    Unfortunately nothing I tried worked. I tried both SSRIs and SNRIs. It is documented in many places that increasing serotonin depletes dopamine. As sleepy stupid said our issue is more of a dopamine deficiency. The SNRI may help as it has a slight stimulant property however it comes with jitters also. Both tend to have sexual side effects (diminished desire). The best things for me seemed to be a healthy balanced diet; also research foods that help support your body producing dopamine. Hydrate a lot and do your best to exercise even if it is 15-30min a day a few times a week, keep pushing yourself to exercise more and you will start to feel better after 1-3 months.
  10. Wellburtin feels like adderall?

    It is IMO a stimulant and even prescribing info says it does have stimulating effects. I'd Google it! I took Wellburtin for a few weeks in attempt to fight what you are going thru. I didn't notice much on my initial 100mg dose, once I bumped to 200mg I had a little of that adderall feeling. For me was a bit more jittery feeling and just a reminder of what I wanted to get away from. Also only felt minor improvements in the depression and stopped before I got in the same situation with another medication
  11. Spam taking over our sanctuary

    Just an update, I am helping as an Administrator and working on being more aggressive with the spam situation. Please flag anything as soon as you see it, I am not on here every minute of every day so any reporting is very helpful. I have removed posts and banned every spam user I could find going back a few months.
  12. Spam taking over our sanctuary

    Yeah I don't know who is moderating these days. I reported a few in hopes someone would address it. Not sure the process in becoming a moderator...
  13. I have been using this forum for nearly 3 years now and never seem it this bad. I cant imagine it not existing due to this sort of thing as it has helped me and so many. Hopefully one of our moderators will clean up the posts and block the users. Maybe an additional step needs to be implemented before potential new members can get in. I hope there is a solution, reddit and facebook do not have anything as intimate as this recovery home.
  14. Built a 2700sqft man cave (shop)... Bucket list for me and my cars and hobbies... Still have ups and downs here and there but an adderall free life has allowed me to turn my business profitable and be able to focus on life goals...