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Hello, I am a scientist with a degree from a top university. Unfortunately, I used adderall as a superhuman supplement that I abused (unfortunately). It helped bring me to the darkest time of my life. I am now recovering and regained my cognition (thank god). I am not trying to put myself on a pedestal but my cognition is back on full throttle (subjectively and objectively), I am hearing comments recently that I am very sharp and 'well-informed' from conversations with strangers. I wouldn't be typing this if it was a few months back. I spend my free time on how to fight back against adderall. I am making this thread and made others (on here but not as detailed). The thread (linked below) is a W.I.P. as I am updating it when I am bored\procrastinating. Also, I am thrilled that I am balancing out....I am fighting back and HARD against anxiety (one of my biggest drawbacks from adderall). I know the thread is currently aligned with a trust me approach but this will change (hopefully) in the next few weeks\months as I gradually add more explanations and sources. Ideally, the post will cover everything that adderall causes or can cause with the appropriate counter measurements. For now, I just talked about defeating anxiety (currently, my biggest milestone). Hopefully I will have enough time (and due diligence) to cover the topics: dopamine, serotonin, norephedrine, depression, chemical systems, thinking patterns and more on cognition. Also maybe more if I am omitting anything at this time. If a mod can take my generosity towards the community and my word (as I lack sources & explanations at this time) and make the link\post a sticky - It will create more motivation and I will have more accountability to keep updating it with the information that I have obtained. I hope this can be of a use and maybe a good read? Good luck everyone! We are all in this together! http://forum.quittingadderall.com/forums/topic/5316-reverse-anxiety-induced-by-adderall

The one thing that I hated and was created by adderall was anxiety. I have been suffering from severe anxiety the past few months which is far from from my baseline. From reading reports, anxiety and depression is really hard to reverse especially if the usage was heavy. I have read reports from 10+ years sober from usage of meth that never fully recovered - This is an extremity of course, but you get my point. I am not going to let adderall defeat me. I spent months reading up on it and found out how it ruined my system and created anxiety. Let's dive in how it creates or created anxiety. I will also touch (briefly) on the dopamine system: Anxiety: Adderall abuse causes excessive dopamine to be released therefore causing an overflow of glutamate which then destroy gaba receptors. Adderall abuse also attacks dopamine d2 receptors heavily. In order to reverse the effects of adderall one has to first decrease their glutamate levels then increase there gaba receptors (look up gaba-glutamate relationship). Also, pay attention to their D2 receptors. Is this possible? How do we do this? First off it is possible! (thank god) First we will decrease glutamate levels with memantine. This will also reverse the negative effects of adderall (you will regain some cognition back along with combating depression). I can't go too much in detail with this since I don't have that much time nor do I want to spend so much energy writing about it. Read more about it from here: http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102335 we should also lower our calcium levels (reason for this is from the link above). We can do this with magnesium glycinate! Next, we need to increase and 're-grow' gaba receptors We will do this with Black seed oil and intranasal insulin: Black seed oil references: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/70kcqv/black_seed_oil_has_repaired_my_broken_gaba_system/ Intranasal insulin references: http://forum.quittingadderall.com/forums/topic/5278-combating-adderall-induced-anxiety/ Also google intransal insulin + gaba..you will find health articles that touch on it. So all three\four(techinically) of these combinations can be taken together and once we have taken them we have successfully lowered our glutamate levels, increased gaba levels and therefore balancing the system out along with repairing our system. In three months time, I will bet thousands that you will feel like a normal person again. Dopamine: Next lets address dopamine D2 receptors: We can do this with Forskolin + heavy dosage (18 grams/day) of inositol. Forskolin upregulates dopamine D2L receptors (adderall causes downregulation) and inositol increases /replaces/repairs dopamine d2 receptors. Inositol also increases gaba! You can google it for more information and sources. I should also add this: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304394017300022 By taking NAD you will be helping repair your dopamine system (see reference above). Cognition: How about my cognition? I want to think again! Well you can take 7,8 DHF (read my previous post a couple weeks ago that includes an article that talks about 7,8 DHF and cognition). Intransal insulin will bring back your memory back also. Also, 7,8 DHF will help destroy your depression. I honestly wouldnt take this along with all the other stuff...well at-least along with memantine and intranasal insulin. I would honestly take everything for 3 months, then just take intranasal insulin for a month or two longer with insoitol, NAD (B-vitamins), forskolin and mag. then take 7,8 DHF. You don't want to over do it\flood your system. I dont have a reference for this statement but its just a obvious thing to point out. Now, where can I get all these goodies at? Since memantine is a Rx; one can think that they will need to go through hurdles in order to obtain it. I will help you knock over the hurdles and you can get most of the items from science.bio ( I know they sell memantine and I think they sell NAD too), walmart for the intranasal insulin then amazon for the rest. Good luck everyone. I am writing this because I am a couple weeks in with BSO and I feel like a normal person in response to anxiety...well almost normal but the effects keep coming and I am positive I will make a full recovery.

Look at "Table 2" it has known drugs (from what the authors found) that have direct links to (meth)amphetamine recovery. There is still more out there but this had a good grip. What really stood out is the Alitretinoin (9cRA). Upon researching it, Alitretinoin has very promising potential in recovery. Getting it, might be hard...though you can get a Rx for it technically.

This is interesting: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnmol.2018.00186/full

It is his dopamine well lack of that is preventing him from sleeping. Luckily, there is a cure. Go to sprouts and buy l-tryosine.

As we all know, long term adderall causes anxiety + depression. This one obviously sucks, especially the anxiety. I found a reliable + cheap remedy for anxiety. Intranasal insulin: http://www.lostfalco.com/intranasal-insulin/ How did I get the logic behind this? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304394017307681 This would be ground breaking for so many people. I don't personally know any ground breaking depression remedies that directly shows correlation with amp. in studies. I am sure they exist, look around! L-tyrosine and 5 htp will obviously help to a large extent.

I am about 9 months clean! I feel great other than dealing with lingering issues that happened during my addiction. It's a long story but it essentially put my life to a halt for a bit. I find it best to blame adderall despite the situation evolved from a shitty person, adderall made me stay in the situation and not get out. I feel better and basically feel free if I blame adderall instead. I hope this is healthy... how do you guys cope with the bad mistakes that happened during your addiction?