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  1. The problem is (for me atleast) Adderall/Vyvanse gives me a surge of happiness/confidence/day looks much brighter kind of effect and that over time is the new normal. I haven't quite reach 6 months yet, more like almost 4 months.. The withdrawals are pretty much over (physical) *BUT* I do miss big time the memories of the instant artificial 'happiness/confidence/day looks much brighter' feeling. How is your diet ? I am a huge advocate of right diet along with heavy weight training (not to a point where you are overtraining). Btw, my dosages were around 100mg to 140mg vyvanse a day.
  2. MFA, I feel the same way. I am almost 60 days free of vyvanse and although the anxiety has decreased (still there though) I feel a couple of levels slower than my vyvanse days. I do admit I still miss the vyvanse 'pick me up' in the morning and the increased confidence I get from it. It might be the lack of exercise + poor diet that may be the culprit in terms of mental sharpness but even then you already know as so do I, nothing I mean NOTHING will replace the mental sharpness of amphetamines. So I think the only way we can combat this is exercise + diet + supplementation to help with mental fortitude
  3. http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/11/lindsay-lohan-rehab-betty-ford-adderall/ Interesting piece that I read today. Apparently she wants to quit her rehab because the doctors at Betty Ford Center is not permitting her to use it. She claims she has ADD but a lot of people think she is addicted. Her dad I remember seeing a video saying that "Adderall is killing her".
  4. Ashley I am glad you can see more and more positives the longer you are off Adderall. Just curious what symptoms are you still experiencing after getting off Addys? I believe I read your story that you were on it for 7 years or so and is clean for about a year? I am day 47 and I still experience anxiety whenever I step outside. Also when I wake up in the morning I still have the "lull" of actually getting up without the 'pick me up' of vyvanse. Freakin sucks.
  5. MFA your doing something I bet seemed impossible when you first quit doesn't it ? I have anxiety just stepping outside and your in a different country w/o addys. lol.
  6. How long were you on Adderall and the dosages? I am sure the brain can eventually heal itself but technically speaking there is no way to know unless you did a brain scan pre-Adderall, then do another brain scan now which is highly unlikely for anyone. I really don't think Adderall is remotely close in terms of damaging the brain compared to meth
  7. Good luck.. If you can do this w/o Adderall pretty much I think your confidence should be sky high from this point on (after the trip).
  8. you and me both.. sucks that recovery has to be at a snails pace. Life looks so boring and in black and white off of addys
  9. InRecovery, thanks for your reply. Just curious how many days/weeks/months into your recovery did your anxiety subside? I know everyone timeline is different but I am trying to get an idea of what is everyones timeline of recovery is. I read some say it took them over a year. One thing I read I am not sure how true it is that prescription drug Wellbutrin some say they felt like their old self pre-Adderall within a matter of days.. MFA, wow you had quite a journey. I think I went into psychosis a couple of times within the 2 years of my vyvanse usage. How long has your recovery been so far ? Any lingering symptoms that you currently still have? With the subject of linear vs non linear the reason I said during the 14 days of being on vacation doing my plan that it was linear because each day slowly but surely I felt better so if you think of it like a graph it was at a steady uphill climb everyday with no stagnation...so I am "assuming" if I didn't go back to work or didn't have a job, that uphill climb will continue because during the 14 days there was no indication of my recovery plateauing...then when I returned to work... BAM the recovery all of sudden plateaued.. might be a coincidence but it might not be.. I would say your discipline is right up there with everyone else because you are OFF the drug and that in and of itself takes major discipline... Quit-once, I know what you mean by binging on the pills and at the end the pills wasn't working at all. I was just taking it for the sake of taking it with no rhyme or reason. Are you still experiencing any pronounced withdrawal symptoms and how long has your recovery been ? Its day 27 for me and I am still stuck at 65% to 70% of feeling like my old self pre-vyvanse.
  10. MFA, thanks for your words of encouragement. Forgive me for not knowing your story but can you quickly fill me in on your recovery? How long has it been and were your dosages similar to mine? Quit-once, I can relate to Adderall and cigs, OMG do they go hand in hand ! How much were your dosages ? Coq10 is a supplement I find is well worth the money (its really not a lot of money anyways). I copied this explanation off another site ==>"Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) is found in every cell in the body and is necessary for the basic functioning of cells. CoQ10 exists inside small organelles of the cell called mitochondria, the powerhouses of the cell, where it is needed to generate energy. A helpful way to recall the function of CoQ10 in the cell is to think about how a spark plug works in an engine. Knowing the role CoQ10 plays in cellular energy production, it is no wonder that the highest concentrations of CoQ10 are where we need the most energy – the heart, immune system, liver and kidneys." As you can see it plays right into our recovery because we have ZERO energy once we are off it........... To give an update on my progress, I am 25 days into recovery and I am plateauing at 65% to 70% of feeling better... Here is the strange thing during the 14 days of not being at work and following my plan, my recovery was linear. Each day was getting better and better but once I returned to work and BROKE my plan the recovery became much slower and stagnate. It didn't get worse but it was NOT linear anymore. Energy is not a huge problem but anxiety is still a problem.. I didn't read so much about people having anxiety post Adderall more mainly with lack of energy and motivation. My anxiety is usually in the morning and getting out of the house but when I was on vacation and forced myself to the gym the anxiety went away.. Now since I cant really go to the gym in the morning the anxiety kind of lingers the whole day. Now this freakin sucks.
  11. Quit-once, I ate the same thing for 14 days while I had vacation. Now since I am back at work I backed off this specific diet to a certain extent.. I supplement now with greek yogurt 2 out of the 5 meals because its fast and at the same time just as healthy. With me during the 14 days I did not eat for taste, I ate PURELY for recovery. I looked at the 5 meals as my job to eat it. Yes it was bland and boring but I had a checklist I had for 14 days which is eat 5 specific meals, drink 1 complete gallon of water and finish my specific workout whether its weights or cardio. I literally INHALED the food without even tasting it. Took me 10 minutes to down it. In between meals I did NOTHING that would create stress so what I did was watch Netflix movies then when a couple hours passed, cook my meals, eat, then watch another movie or surf the net then eat again etc etc.. MFA, I understand withdrawing and all you want to eat is junk food or "comfort food" because you just want to satisfy your brain with something enjoyable but the way I structured my recovery is 2-fold. In order to recover WITHOUT an aid of another type of drug it needs to be exercise(100% effort) ALONG with the right food(100% effort) to EQUAL the maximum amount of recovery possible.. I read A LOT of people struggles with withdrawal and something I noticed is the people who did not really analyze their food intake or did not exercise recovered but it was a longgg....drawn...out....process... So I know my 'window of opportunity' is 14 days where I can do nothing except follow my plan.. no answering emails, no socializing etc just eat and exercise.. Believe me it SUCKED big time and it still sucks but I would say right now I am 65%-70% feeling like how I felt PRE-vyvanse which was over 2 years ago. Give this diet a shot, doesn't have to be this amount but Im confident you will expedite your recovery 10 fold.. I REALLY give credit to the people who recovered WHILE still working because I will be the first to admit that I could not do it.. Theres no way I would be able to go to work functioning normally... Everyone know how it is the first 5 days or so when you step outside WITHOUT your addy, you feel like your walking outside NAKED and everyone is staring at you.
  12. Lea believe me when I tell you every meal I cook I say "I hate this so much" while cooking and grind through it. When I am walking to the gym floor I say to myself "I don't want to be here, I hate this so much" but I blast my music look at my workout log and just do it while cursing in my head. So I definitely know what everyone is going through..
  13. Thanks Ashley, believe me I know what you mean about how hard it is getting out of bed... I curse out loud everyday getting out of bed. I curse out loud cooking food and curse out loud driving to the gym, grocery store etc.. Atleast we made a commitment of getting off this poison
  14. This might not work for everyone but I believe its working for me or atleast making recovery faster... Quick background been on Vyvanse 70mg for 2 years, sometimes taking more than 70mg a day (140mg on some days). I knew coming off this would be hell so I designated my recover time with my vacation. Me personally I feel YOU NEED DAYS OFF FROM WORK if possible to really speed up the recovery process. My 2 main goals within the first 2 weeks is to EAT, and EXERCISE. I keep a workout journal and a diet journal. This is my diet literally every single day. (MEAL #1), 2 whole organic eggs + 10 egg whites, 1 Cup Quakers Oatmeal(no flavor plain), 1 large cup of coffee, Multivitamin(Animal Pak brand) + Coq10 Supplement(200mg). (MEAL #2) 8oz Organic Chicken (Bell & Evans Brand), 1 Large Cup Brocolli, Coq10 Supplement(100mg). (MEAL #3) 10oz Salmon + 1 Large Yam, 200mg of Chelated Magnesium (Doctor's Best brand). (MEAL #4) 8oz Organic Chicken (Bell & Evans brand), 2 large tomatoes, 1 large carrot, 2 teaspoons of olive oil added to it, 100mg of Coq10, 100mg of Chelated Magnesium. (MEAL #5, last meal) 8oz Flank Steak, 1 Cup Asparagus. Along with the meals I make sure I drink atleast 1 gallon of Poland Spring water jug a day. Of course if you weigh 120 pounds you don't need this much food but I weigh 220lb so I eat according to my bodyweight... The workout consists of high intensity lasting NO MORE than 1 hour. Working out with weights is 2 days on 1 day off, 1 day on, 1 day off. Repeat. On non weight training days cardio on the treadmill, 30 mins. 1 min running, 3 mins walking, repeat till 30 mins. BELIEVE me when I tell you its a PAIN IN THE ASS to cook this food and go workout without the Adderall/vyvanse but I just grind my teeth and do it. Driving to the gym or even going outside I get anxiety but like I mentioned in another thread I wear a hoodie, my big headphones and a cap so no one bothers me and just grind it out. I know its working because last year I tried taking a week off WITHOUT this strategy and after 1 week I still feel like a total TRAIN WRECK. This is day 21, I still feel some anxiety and everyday is still a chore to do this simpliest things BUT it isn't NEARLY as bad when I tried last year without utilizing this plan. So for 2 weeks my ONLY CONCERN is to workout, drink 1 full gallon jug of Poland Spring water and cook my 5 specific meals a day, THATS IT. I go grocery shopping ONCE a week early in the morning when there is no people because of high anxiety and buy enough for the whole week so I do not have to venture again to the store and get panic attacks again.
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