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Provigil is what got me started on adderall. I couldn't stay awake in my pharma rep route so I just got a prescription from a doctor I knew would write anything I asked him to and boom, I started on my speed trip which lasted 7 years total. I had to stop taking it because I was becoming an angry person. Very angry. I'm never like that anymore, not even when I was taking adderall. Anyway, the fact that the FDA has provigil at Class IV doesn't make it safe. Psychologically and physically this drug is addictive. Why? Tolerance and the need for it to keep you awake. You take provigil over time and you will need more than you started with to get the same effects. I don't trust the studies these pharma companies do. Provigil will alter your personality in a similar to perhaps even a more drastic manner than adderall. Provigil scared me before I got off it. I was so happy to just move from provigil to adderall. Quitting adderall for me has been a smooth process. But had I just stopped provigil with nothing to replace it with I'm not sure what would have happened at that time in my life. I was angry when I was on it and angry when I wasn't on it, but I'm guessing the withdrawal impact would have been similar to any drug. Another scary thing about Provigil is that the mechanism of action or the "how" this drug works is not known. When I see that I think then how the heck did they discover it would work in the first place. I'm sure there is a good story on that, but I don't place my faith in drug companies. They are driven for profits as we all know. So I'd have to agree with the posters above that say stay away from provigil. It does work, but this drug is also another trap.

Frank, I feel for you. When I read what you are saying it sounds like you feel like you are backed in a corner and thinking that you will never be healed and you've always been inclined to use speed. I used this for 5 years at a rate of 60-70mg per day so my dosage isn't that outrageous. But I did feel that I was beginning to not feel the benefits of productivity and recognized the pull back I was doing in my relationships. I've been off two weeks and tonight I'm tired. But throughout these two weeks after weening down for a couple weeks I feel pretty good. Today I had two big coffees so I'm still using a stimulant to get me through the day. What bothers me about this drug is I didn't want to be zoning in on work and zoning out on what is important (my family ---wife, daughter, parents, friends, siblings), all because I was a slave to this stupid drug. I know some people on here have read and know I was prayed for in the name of Jesus before I quit while weening down and that was a big help I believe. You will think I"m a religious nut perhaps when I tell you this because most people do. But I don't go to church and most people that do go to church I know think I'm a complete reprobate. So I'm telling you straight up people get prayed for and healed. I've experienced it first hand and I have done this on other people and they have experienced recovery. You are welcome to contact me via Skype and I'll talk to you and help you. I'm not soliciting money nor will I take any if you offer. I'm not looking for followers or the joining any church religion. I simply would like to help anyone that is desperate for deliverance from this evil drug and the damages it has done in your life. I'm a former whore mongering, drunkard, thief, and murderer. So I've had a rough past, but I"m clean of everything now. The last thing was adderall. There's hope for anyone that will seek it. I can be contacted via Skype: michael.king500 Be blessed, MIchael King

Congratulations by the way. I've been off adderall for 15 days with a similar story as you. And I did have insomnia (although not too bad) for a handful of nights. I just got so tired by the fourth night or so that my body crashed and I've become normalized. One key thing I did was set a time to put the phone down and stop reading. So my sleep hygiene was also part of the problem. You have introduced another drug into the mix though. Now you are taking Wellbutrin. That drug can cause insomnia as I'm sure you know. Benadryl will work well for about 3-4 nights and then it loses its efficacy. So you may want to use it as needed rather than every night. I was a pharma rep for years and sold in the sleep market. I don't know your situation, but some people take anti anxiety and anti depression meds because they think they need them for depression. But there is another way to deal with depression which you cannot fully address while taking meds. Meds are a trap. You get off one thing and get on another many times. I'm not trying to be insensitive to what you may be dealing with. You are dealing with dropping adderall like a champ. I know many people that thought they needed Wellbutrin and did not. Same thing with Zoloft, prozac and lexapro. My wife was on lexapro for awhile and I even encouraged her to stay on it. That was totally not something she needed to be on. Same with another friend of mine. Wellbutrin is a trap too.

I think I just learned something new: Visual Processing Deficit. That describes what I experienced even before adderall. It seems to be worse now that I've been off adderall for two weeks. But maybe Visual processing deficit is something I had all my life and just didn't realize that it was the adderall that helped me forget about that. It is definitely worse now. My wife makes fun of me when I ask her where something is in the fridge and she says, "right in front of you" and I just have this blank look and feeling. It bothers me a little when she points this out, but I don't think she nor I have been understanding how my brain seems to be stuttering. Its all very strange because I'm detail oriented in what I do and my job requires it as well. To not notice something right in front of your face is hard to explain to people. But it is a brain thing I believe. I've been wondering about my visual issues for some time and I see that others experience this too. I figured being that I'm quite an odd person I thought maybe it was just me having these visual recognition problems. While comforting to know that it is not just me I certainly don't wish this on anyone.

I love Youversion by the way. I'm a big fan of MySword for android and when I'm listening and reading at the same time I love Youversion. They've got the best audio reader. I find myself reading a little bit with an english accent at times because I think I listen to that and a preacher that passed away that was from England (Derek Prince) quite often.

That's awesome JustinW. I never read the bible until about 2 years ago, but I read the entire thing last year in four months and to my surprise the old testament was really good. Nehemiah is a great book and I never thought about how that book could be good for encouragement for rebuilding lives. I've been renewing my mind for some time by reading the bible daily as well. I like to start at the beginning of a book and go all the way through. Now that I'm not on adderall I'm not sure if this is going to make me tend to want to jump around more or not. I hope not.

I've been enjoying basketball, walking, a little running, great sleep finally (the first few days surprisingly my sleep was terrible), playing Clue with my daughter and wife (and losing every time), I actually had adderall in my wallet for many days after I started to quit and kind of forgot about it. I have some brain fog here and there, but before I took adderall I recall that too. Although back then I was a heavy drinker which I don't do anymore either. So it is hard to get a handle on how I was before. Adderal has no grip on me anymore and this is an awesome feeling. This is day 10. BUT I did ween down for two weeks from 70 down to 20mg per day. Then nothing. Originally I was scared to stop of what might happen or losing my job because my brain wouldn't perhaps work. But I had prayer from a brother strong in Jesus Christ and I believe my faith has delivered me from this. I'm so very happy about this. I love this site by the way too.

I also work an IT job for a living and this can be difficult. So far I find I've been procrastinating. The first couple days I had a hard time figuring out things. But now I just find that I don't want to get on the hard problems yet. I'm 7 days without any adderall (or 8). Yep 8. My brain is a little slow, but so far I believe it has more to do with catching up on sleep. I'm still sleep deprived but have had 5 nights in a row of about 8 hours of sleep. That makes the days go by better. Also, I was on adderall for 5 years up to 70mg a day, but more close to 50-60mg per day. You can make it!

I'm not addressing all your comments in this post, but I just wanted to say I feel bad for you in particular with your marriage. My wife also takes adderall. I also takes, but I should say she takes it and I don't anymore. I truly don't need it because I'm not ADD although I know you say that you are. So my experience is much different than yours in that I was abusing adderall and didn't truly need it. Adderall makes us withdraw from people and events and conversations. There probably is a reason why we want to do this even before we withdraw. I love my wife and don't want to withdraw from her or my child, but I'm certain I've done that and I think my wife has also. This can cause a chasm in a relationship which may be what you are experiencing. Your husband is also an addict and is likely acting out with justification and using this as an excuse to hog up your meds so he can "help you"/abuse more adderall. It is very convenient to beat up on someone once they admit they have a problem. I've been off adderall for a week. I'm doing fine and not taking anything except coffee and getting plenty of sleep now thanks be to God. I was sleeping like 4.5 hours a night for over a year many nights a week. The adderall was keeping me up and to stay up the next morning I had to take more than I usually took. It created a vicious cycle that I believe was somewhat out of my control. That's why I knew I had to quit. Adderall was destroying my mind simply by lack of sleep. But adderall helps destroy relationships too. You and your husband need to be released from Adderall and you both will stand a much better chance of healing your marriage. Was your husband mean like this before being on Adderall? I bet he wasn't. I don't know you or your husband but I wouldn't abandon your marriage until you try and help he also get away from adderall. You can be delivered from this. I was and I have no issues one week after stopping a five year abuse.