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- The individual may develop a "permanent stuttering" which persists even after amphetamine has long since been ceased.

- In a similar way that the stuttering develops, an individual may develop a possible permanent difficulty talking, using correct grammar and sentence structure, or expressing thoughts to others. In severe cases, this may even resemble a schizophrenic's clanging or word salad.

- Essentially, the mind at this point is irreversibly compromised. The user's personality might have changed permanently. The individual may be much more easily irritated for the rest of his/her life. Cognitive functioning will never work the same as it used to. Although the user may make improvements and greatly recover, it will almost always seem like something "isn't right" in the mind, or that something is "missing". Individuals will still be able to lead fulfilling lives, and some may make amazing recoveries where they feel normal again like they did before they ever began using. Unfortunately, in severe cases, the individual may never be the same again.

 

Made it to 8. Difficulty talking, making thoughts come out, stutter. Can't access certain words, deep thinking, halted thoughts when I reach deeper.

 

MARKED irritability.

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I remember reading this before and but reading it now I think I was in stage 6.  It's pretty scary looking at the bigger picture like that.  Stage 1 duration was shockingly correct for me back then I thought I was being very careful, but it didn't matter.

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Irreversible damage is just absurdly rare. The brain is remarkably resilient. Don't lose faith in recovery because you falsely believe you are permanently damaged. That said, quit now.

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I think I was on 7 heading to 8. Scary stuff. Although, I don't believe there is irreversible damage to the brain.

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Motivation..thank you for this scare or at least a brief moment of clarity in which I read this. Over the last couple hours I copied to word so i could make something to read on a daily basis. (I have it my own title, wrote a message to myself...mostly bc I thought I was going to OD literally just now but its turned out okay and the OD feeling has passed...and reformatted a bit for aesthetic purposes. (I will share what I just wrote with the group as there is no reason to post that which is already here. It may sound cheesy to some but I enjoy writing and the last 1.4 years being unemployed and hurting has allowed very few open gateways in which my soul is allowed to breathe and experience real feelings and moments of passion before the door closes yet again. So thank you for igniting something by posting this. To me, it's as if I am walking just behind with our footsteps in a unified Path to destruction.)

Falling 8 Stories

Title by Brian xxxx

“Hello to you/myself, Brian. I hope you are reading this on a regular basis, or until the storm has passed, and it scares the shit out of you. Today, April 18, 2015, you had a moment of clarity when you began searching for guidance. You found this to be terrifyingly accurate so you Did the copy/paste thing and gave it your own title. Fitting too.

You are at Stage 8 my friend and you are no longer driving the car. A reminder: at this moment you feel like you are going to die after having just taken a legal, but non-FDA approved, stimulant substitute after days of too little rest, water, and food; but lots of that little orange “Sirenâ€. Quit mixing these things dude.

Tomorrow, 3/19/15, is a new day. I have found a doctor that can help. I will be honest and give him a full frontal of the REAL ME! I have allowed my addictions to ruin careers, ruin relationships, and shut out the people in this world who love me dearly. My truth will allow for a program that will be for me and give guidance that I will understand and it will help. DON’T FUCK THIS UP. Enough is enough. No more excuses. I have constructed this world of shit and I need to tear it down. (Feeling a little better after I took a Xanax. I have much less “impending doom†notion. Dumb fuck you.)

So start reading. You've have traversed and/or currently on a 6 thru 8 roller coaster. I hope your current efforts are more “just in time†rather than “you've missed the boatâ€. There exist few things that you find either motivating or positive enough to endure several more months, let alone years, of the current agony of which you feel…all the timeâ€.

It's okay to be scared. Welcome it with open arms.

_______________________

one question: in the eight stages you state:...Amphetamine Use - (title xxx). No argument intended but Use and Abuse are so completely different. Eating my Rx of 30, 70mg Vyvanse in 3 days with no sleep , then buying 40, 30mg adderall and eating those all in the next 5 days...that's abuse. I consider "Use" synonymous to "as prescribed". Thoughts?

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Wow! I can't believe how scarily accurate these 8 stages outlined are. I have been oscillating between stage 5 and 6 for a couple years now. Great post, thank you for sharing. 

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