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On 3/15/2024 at 9:58 PM, Groundhogdaze said:
Have you been able to relearn how to work without use of this drug? Did you have Depression? Lack of motivation? anxiety? insomnia? I have all these and wonder if it will get better. I've been adderall free since january 19 2024. today is march 15 2024.
Thanks,
Have I had to relearn how to work?
Yes and no. That was me doing to the work on adderall, not the pill. The pill causes dopamine to be released which makes everything interesting. It makes whatever you are doing enjoyable so you can focus and enjoy unpleasant tasks. I’m still the same person so I just had to figure out how to make myself interested in what I’m doing. I figured this out because there was so much I dreaded to do after the pill, but I realized when I was playing video games, I could lock in and stay focused for hours. I didn’t need a pill.
There are ways to trick yourself into getting yourself motivated to do work you don’t like and enjoy it. The trick is to break down large tasks into simple steps and start attacking the smaller ones. As you complete each one your brain will release some dopamine and you will gain momentum. You just have make yourself start. If you have trouble there, set a timer for 15 minutes. Promise yourself you will work on that task the best to your ability and will give yourself a reward like a 5 minute break after. Do that a few times an you will see that you can do this. Some days may be harder than others but this method works no matter what shape you are in.
Ive gotten to the point to where I don’t have to do that any more most days. As along as I eat healthy and stay away from processed foods, exercise and sleep I can work all day and stay focused now.
I tapered off and had quit alcohol when I quit over 2 years ago. I was depressed before and my depression went away when I quit. I did have some anxiety that would come and go. Not anymore. I think no alcohol was the key. Insomnia came and went for a while. I took naps in the afternoon that helped when I couldn’t sleep well at night. It was incredibly effective.
Back to working, I would recommend the book What to do when there is too much to do by Laura Stack. She teaches a great method for breaking down tasks in a way that will boost productivity in half the time which is a godsend for anyone trying to work while recovering. I also recommend searching for any info in help with adhd because those are the symptoms you get when stopping the pill. I still use the app FocusAtWill for brown/pink/white noise types of sounds to help me hyper focus at work
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On 3/8/2024 at 5:13 PM, one-day-at-a-time said:
An update-- today I am at 102 days. It's been a roller coaster. I am losing the weight (currently 24 lbs away from the weight I was when I stopped) and anticipate getting back to my starting weight in two months if things continue to go well. Right now I am looking for simple work and my largest struggles are brain fog (though this is improving), horrible anxiety, insomnia, being highly socially awkward to the point where I mess up a lot in conversation and say things that feel like they don't really fit at times, and low energy/fatigue. At times, I have been getting very frustrated because I want to be doing so much more than is possible right now at this stage of recovery. I want to be out of my parents house, working an adult job with my degree, out meeting people and dating and living a normal life and going out with friends and not living like this. I feel so behind everyone my own age right now and fat and dumb and socially awkward. It sucks but I knew this was coming when I stopped. I know it will be worth it in the end and I don't have another choice if I want to have a real future.
I really regret having allowed myself to gain so much weight during the first couple months but I am trying to remember I won't be like this for much longer if I keep up my diet and exercise regimen. Cravings are strong but they pass. The weight gain does trigger some cravings especially as I come out of the fog more and more and look down at a totally different body than the one I used to inhabit.
I also get really worried and panic at times that I screwed up my life irreparably, especially during the later stages (last two years) of my use where I started to abuse Adderall to get shit done and be up for days at a time (in the last year of my use). A lot of what seemed sane to me on the pill, especially in the later stages, was totally insane and I burned a lot of bridges. These memories of the horror of my life on the pill and the terrible mistakes I made continue to keep me sober.
Also, I can say with confidence that I would not be sober from this pill today or even alive probably without these forums and I am eternally grateful they exist. No one in my life really understands what I am going through. I would have given up on ever having a life off of this drug if I did not know that my current cognitive deficits and symptoms were a normal part of PAWs and recovery from this drug.
My writing skills are still not what they used to be on the Adderall but I hope someone benefits from me sharing my experience. While I am still very early in my recovery, I can say for sure that things are getting better. Slowly, but surely. You get to a point where you feel amazing sometimes and it all feels so worth it and so right. Right now I am not having one of those days/moments but they are powerful enough to keep me going during these dark hours and days.
I hope this made sense and I am sorry if it did not. I have horrible brain fog writing this but wanted to put it out there.
Everything you are experiencing will pass. I wouldn’t trust any of your emotions for a while if I were you. They will be all over the place. You are through the toughest parts already.
You are in competition with who you were yesterday. Just focus on beating that person everyday. You will still probably have a really bad day pop up here and there. It’s normal. Just do what you have to get by when you do and know that they will come less often the longer you get on your journey. Don’t let the bad days discourage in thinking you are going backwards. You aren’t. It is a part of healing. Just pop on Netflix when it happens and try to find something enjoyable to do.
I would suggest you embrace ChatGPT while you are trying to recover. Put everything you write in there and have it critique you or make it more coherent. Have it check your work. Ask it for advice. Make it organize your tasks. Lean on it as a crutch for work and be thankful you decided to quit at a time when it is available.
As for the rest just keep pushing through. You will see some big improvements soon. I’m at 26 months on my journey. best of luck-
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I can’t believe it has been 2 years since my last dose already. It’s crazy how powerful the drug is. I hadn’t had a craving or even thought about the drug in months and last Friday that little voice in my head was telling me that I could take a dose and finish a task and it won’t bother me. It’s an ongoing battle but you can’t make the decision each day not to. You have to decide up front and never stray from it. Good luck to those still trying and to those who have been successful! Hope everyone has a great 2024
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22 hours ago, FisherKing said:
@Jon B It's tough. I thought I'd be able to jump back in like I did when I was tweaking. I'm having a really hard time sitting there all day and concentrating on tasks, especially with all the anxiety of starting a new job and hoping I'm doing all the right things to impress my employer. I have this huge fear looming over me that I'll lose my job before I even get good and started. I hope I can conquer that fear because it's probably irrational and could turn into self-fulfilling prophecy if I'm not careful. Also, I get very anxious when things get quiet and I'm not busy. Hopefully I'll get better at this in the coming weeks. I have been out of work for a while and it's going to take a minute to get back into the groove.
Get you some l-tyrosine to help your focus for a little while. I also go to 5 hour energy when I need a little extra. Also try breathing exercises they help keep your anxiety away.
I have to write down each step of what I’m working on to help me focus and get in the groove when I don’t want to. Maybe some of this can help you like it did me if you are interested in trying.
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I hate you are experiencing all of this. Sounds like you may need to see a real doctor (not a physiatrist) for all those symptoms.
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Just realized I have made it to 1.5 years clean when I looked at my calendar. I’m also 2 years off alcohol as of July 2nd. I am proud of myself. Good luck to you all!
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Gonna try it. I need an ice bath for recovery after exercise anyway sometimes
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I’ve been doing great. I will post more updates tomorrow on this thread when I have more time but wanted to get this post in since today is my 16 month clean anniversary.
Withdrawal wise I don’t really have any negative effects anymore. I have plenty of energy. I haven’t suffered from any depression. I’ve embraced who I am and just moved forward. I try to focus on others and making their lives or day better. I found that makes me feel great.
I got a new job and have been there 3 months. I doubled my pay and make well over 6 figures now. I love my new job and I hate that adderall made me happy for so long in my crappy previous job that I hated when I got off of it. As far as withdrawals, I’ve consumed no alcohol and ate a healthy diet 70% of the time while exercising vigorously almost 100% of the time. It definitely played a role but no way tell how big. Compare to other success stories if you are interested.
I drink up to a couple of cups of coffee per day. I rarely take any l-tyrosine to focus. I don’t take any l-dopa. They used to help, but I have found I don’t need it anymore. I have plenty of energy throughout the day as long as I sleep 8 hours and I do most of the time. I got through the early stages by doing whatever work I could when I could do any. I haven’t had to do things that way for a while.
It’s almost like the person I used to be on adderall is just a distant memory now. I am the person I always wanted to get back to.
Oh and I went outside yesterday in 88 degree heat, and I didn’t get my adderall sunburn after 5 minutes! It’s great. I didn’t get burned at all actually.
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15 hours ago, ALA said:
It still boggles my mind how one day I can think so disgustingly about my relationship/experience with Adderrall and then the next day crave it. What a mind game here. I feel like I felt stronger the first few weeks after I stopped taking the damn drug compared to how I feel hitting just over 2 months. Any one else have this experience?
It’s normal. The cravings will improve. They usually come strong and then vanish after a few minutes. They may vary in frequency and intensity but they slowly fade away. It’s normal to feel stronger at first than where you are now because it was still in your blood stream for a few days and it took a while for your body to realize it wasn’t coming back.
Now your body is re-calibrating itself to run on its own again. Let it run its course and look forward to the future. It is like letting the lawnmower run in spring to get rid of the bad gas from sitting up all winter. It should start noticeably getting better soon. It won’t be linear improvement where the next day will always be better but it will be more like ups and downs, like a roller coaster, some days will be worse than others but the bad days will fade away. I’m at almost 15 months and it I still get one bad day of energy now and then but it is very rare. I think that is normal for regular people too though.
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I would recommend you go to a standard family physician instead of your psychiatrist to get help while off the meds. It would be worth a try
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11 hours ago, in sterquiliniis invenitur said:
Day 6: I've relapsed since the time of starting this thread but... I put myself back on the "track". Even though it really doesn't feel like a track or any sort of goal-directed framework at all; I feel like I not only limited my ability to do work... but the framework/value system evaporated from under my feet and nothing related to academics matters one bit anymore. I've been having random bouts of incapacitating sense of meaninglessness shrouding my activities; I see no intrinsic meaning at all in my homework and, every time I sit in front of it to do it, it's not like I'm just "unable to do it"-- I'm unable to conceptualize a value structure sufficient enough to justify my miserable existence. My favorite passtime now is daydreaming vividly, long enough to forget who the hell I am when I snap back into reality.
I don't know if I was treating ADD with Adderall or something far worse. But I'm not the same person right now than who I was just a few days ago. Let's see where this is going.I would recommend that you wait a few weeks before you try to make sense of how you feel. Just know that it will pass and force yourself to do things that matter like homework, even though you don't feel like you care. You will. Your brain is like a sponge and it takes some time to dry out and work properly without the drug again. Trust the process and try to keep yourself busy doing whatever you find that can stimulate your brain during withdrawal. It will make you feel better. Movies and video games worked for me. Whatever can distract you from thinking about how you feel will help. Also think about the person you want to be when you come out on the other side. Write that down and read it everyday. Get a mental picture of that person so you can see yourself. Know that you are on a journey to get there. You can also take a selfie every day and watch yourself improve over time. I wish I had done that.
Also, you can also set timers to help you with your homework. You really just need help getting started, your brain is still there and will work if you can get it going. Put a timer on for 10 minutes and force yourself to focus on one particular task and only that task for the entire 10 minutes. Then take 5 minute break. Then repeat the process until all tasks for an assignment are done. Bump up to 15 or 20 minutes when you think you can handle it. It helped me get through a lot and maybe it can help you too. Good luck.
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Feels great. I've been wanting this for so many years so it feels so great to finally get to this milestone. I'm going to celebrate this weekend.
I really think that weaning off the pill and not consuming any alcohol has helped accelerate my recovery. Alcohol is a depressant and will make your depression much worse. I still take some L-Tyrosine for focus on a rare occasion. I don't really take any L-Dopa for mood anymore. I drink 2-3 cups of coffee a day.
I have noticed many improvements to my quality of life the longer I stay off of it. I just recently noticed that I don't have the eczema breakouts that I normally do in the winter. My knuckles are usually bleeding this time of year, even with the use of prescription topical steroids, but my skin is so much healthier that they are perfectly normal.
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On 1/8/2023 at 3:33 PM, sirod9 said:
I'm venting and seeking support. I'm 17 months clean off of adderall. Over the last few months, I have felt pretty damn good, but I occasionally experience what feels like PAWS. bouts of PAWS. They are not as long as they used to be, but boy are they frustrating. Each bout begins slowly, as though I begin a slow decent into quicksand. Then, it peaks for 24 to 48+ hours, then a slow ascent back up to normal. Right now, my current bout began slowly next week. Then on Friday, I sunk throughout the day and I'm still in the worst part of it.. I'm experiencing the following:
- fatigue
- my body feels heavy
- scattered energy, thoughts
- can't execute plans
- my plans go all over the place
- low mood
- anhedonia
- increased hunger
- my chest feels heavy
so, here I am. a few weeks ago, I felt great. I have been feeling really guilty and bad about this, because I can't seem to pull myself out of this. I asked my boyfriend if he experiences this type of mood, he says yes. And tells me it is normal. But I'm not sure. it feels like I just quit a month ago. I'm finally coming to the conclusion that I have to just accept this and try to enjoy it I guess. This is going to happen, and I no longer have a drug to turn to.
Also, I quit smoking last week, with the help of nicotine patches. I guess that may be contributing to this crappy feeling??
Looking forward to 18 months, looking forward to feeling better again. Ugh!!!
I hope everyone is having a good day.
Quitting smoking was very tough for me. I quit almost 20 years ago after smoking for almost 8 years. I used the patch to get off of it too. I never looked back. Good luck to you! You've got this.
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1 hour ago, Jon B said:
The way I've stepped down has been from 60, 40, 30, 20, 10. What I've realized is that the habbit of taking adderall every morning for years is what is the toughest to get over. Sounds like you have definitely made some progress on your journey which is awesome! How long have you been weaning off for?
I started around Mid to Early November 2021. started at 60 and took a huge first step. It was rough. I think I went from 60 to 20 or something close to that (Adderall). I then stepped down to 1.25 per day by January. Then I would skip a day, then 2 day, then I stopped completely on Jan 13th and have been free from it for 11 months. Stepping down is definitely the way to go and it sounds like you are through much of the hard parts. Keep it up, you are getting close!
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1 hour ago, DelaneyJuliette said:
I had a 1.5 day adderall relapse Sunday afternoon thru Monday at ab 11pm where I stayed up all night but I stopped then and went to sleep. Didnt take anything yesterday. It was awful and have a lot of feelings that I let that happen. I was so scared I was gonna lose all I've gained since stopping 3 months ago. But I didn't. So nuts though how I got so trapped by it again in just one day (after 3 months of being off) It was insane. That was scary. I am shaky from the experience but still coming back into being solid. I guess I am grateful for it bc it super solidified how much I do not EVER want adderall in my life again.
Hang in there!
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Proud to say I've made it 11 months. I'm pretty much back to normal but I still supplement my diet with a small amount of dopa-mucuna (dopamine) to make me feel happy and great all the time as well as L-Tyrosine for focus. I drink coffee as well.
I enjoy being able to enjoy things again. It is nice being myself again. I like getting my 8 hours of sleep every night and not feeling like I've been hit by a truck every morning when I roll out of bed, desperately searching for a pill to make the comedown go away.
It is nice when I drive to be in the moment and not hyper-focusing on the drive. Same goes for everything else in life, being in the moment and enjoying it without hyper-focusing on something stupid and insignificant.
I've also learned that I can get more done with a little planning than I could ever popping a pill. I can work out at the gym just as long and hard at the gym. I also enjoy my evening time. I used to spend it with headaches or in a rage from coming off pills. Now I get to use that time for relaxing when I have time to, like normal people do.
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22 hours ago, Jon B said:
Hey everyone, - Haven't posted here before. Been lingering around this site for the past few months. Its provided so much motivation for me to quit adderall. I had winged myself all the way down to 10mg of Adderall from 60 mg. I was approaching almost a couple of months on 10 mg. However, I've been so stressed lately with work and life (my terrible excuse) and I took a 50 mg vyvance today that I had left over from a while ago, thinking I would be at least able to knock out some work and make decisions that I have been unable to make since starting 10 mg, but now all I feel is regret. I know i'm not supposed to step back up and I did.
Have I completely screwed up all the stepping down that I've done? - I have almost 3 weeks off of work for the holidays and am planning to cold turkey. Guess I'm just feeling stuck in life right now. Thanks in advance for the insight, advice, and support.
I weaned myself off and I stepped up a couple of times but not anywhere as much as the amount that you did so I can't completely relate to that. I stepped up from 2.5 to 7 once and from 1.25 to 5 another time. As long as you did it only once, it shouldn't set you back too badly. Think of it as your brain being like a sponge. It takes a while for it to dry up of Adderall once you quit. Weaning off makes it dry up quicker once you stop. One day of going up to 50 won't completely saturate the sponge. However, the battle will be mentally from stopping yourself from stepping up again. Use battle tested strategies for combatting general types of cravings to keep yourself from ding it again. Good Luck!
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On 12/1/2022 at 2:04 AM, OnSomething said:
Tomorrow will be my day 1.. NA has really helped me but I’m dreading the cravings. Anyone have any good podcast/movie recommendations/etc to distract me through my bad cravings? For reference I’m taking 200mg a day and drink 2 bottles of wine a night to come down..
The cravings will probably be intense for you. It is no different than food cravings and other cravings though. You have to wait it out and it will go away. I always would tell myself to wait a certain length of time, maybe 2 hours or so and told myself that if I still wanted it badly at that time that I would take it. The craving would always be long gone by then. Adjust your times according to how long they last for you if you decide to try it.
I'm almost at 11 months clean now and I still have 3 full bottles of prescription Adderall in my top drawer that I had leftover because I weaned myself off. I was able to survive cravings with a large supply on hand. I don't get cravings anymore. I plan on flushing them on my 1 year anniversary.
Good Luck!
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I was able to wean off but it took me years to get up the courage to try. I don't know about your experience weaning off but it was rough for me the first couple of step-downs but it got much easier after that. Alcohol can make it much harder if you partake in that. I quit that before weaning off. Alcohol will make you absolutely nuts if you drink much while taking Adderall anyway, and not just when you are drinking/drunk. Stopping that would probably be a priority if you are. It takes a lot of will power to quit, no matter which route you choose. If you think you can quit cold turkey then try that. I did that several times and was successfully off of it for over a year. It gets better.
Don't beat yourself up for failing. It is a powerful addiction. There is no harm in trying weaning more slowly or trying cold turkey several times before being successful. Just be determined to quit and be prepared for a lot of anxiety.
Quitting is the best thing I ever did. You do not need the drug to be successful. I wanted to get a new job but I wanted to quit the drug more. I was scared I couldn't do my job (software engineer) without it but if I ever wanted to get off the drug, I had to do it before I got a new job or that would be the end of me. I was determined to quit and show myself I can do it without the drug and so that motivated me to get where I am.
7.5 months later after weaning and I am better than ever. I not only function normally, but I am even better focused and have more energy. I still need L-Tyrosine from time to time. That's really just me still taking the easy way out to be honest. I still take an Alpha Brain on occasion when I want to be super sharp. I can work all day and come home and study/prep new code for job interviews all night until bed time. I can usually fall asleep within a few minutes and wake up fully refreshed, if I watch my caffeine intake. I can also change tasks easily and jump right back in to what I was doing, where I used to just hyperfocus on one thing for way too long on the pill.
I have a big final job interview next week for a job that could pay me 2.5 times my current salary. If I would have quit years ago, I could have been in this position much sooner. Instead, that evil pill made me happy with my current crappy job, being very entertained by doing some really boring and dreadful work for less pay than at other places. Who knows what I could have been without it. I refuse to let my past haunt me though. I'm only focused on moving forward, not on what I lost as far as relationships, career, etc.... I'm living my best life from here on out.
Hope you can join me. Its a tough journey to start but gets much easier.
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I don't think you will be totally starting over. Your brain is like a sponge for the Adderall or whatever your prescription is. It gets very saturated after taking it for a while and slowly dries up over time when you stop. You should not have the same difficulty as you did 4 months ago.
I was clean for over a year several years ago. It was a tough, I had been on it for many years and I quit cold turkey. When I got back on it I swore I would do so on my own terms. I tried a half of an old leftover 5mg pill (I never threw them out!) to see how it would affect me and it wasn't bad the first time. I went a week without and then decided I would go lighter and take it a couple of weeks here and there. I went on for 4+ months going on the pill for 2 weeks then off for two weeks. Then I remember I was going 30 days on to 30 days off. Then of course I was on it everyday, full doses for the last 7 years, and I am now at 7 months clean. That is the evil of it. The longer you are off of it, the easier it is to forget what got you in the position in the first place.
The trick is to prepare for the cravings. Have an out plan. Tell yourself you will see what you can do without it right now and take it tomorrow if it doesn't work out. Actually, putting it off an hour or two should do the trick. Do whatever you have to do to talk yourself into postponing it. All cravings are the same. They are 100% mental. They come and if you resist they leave you pretty fast and you won't want it anymore, then you can move on about your day. They slow down the longer you are off of it and only come around on special occasions. They come a lot harder too, but they are just as easy to defeat.
Don't beat yourself up for screwing up. Use the opportunity to learn from it and move forward. That's the biggest thing. MOVE FORWARD. You said it yourself so it sounds like you know what to do already. Put one foot in front of the other, focus on one day at a time, and keep a big list of what you are so very thankful for in your life. Focus on that and your plan to resist cravings when they come. If you are in a very weak moment, do what you can to put it off until the afternoon, or evening where you will be in a much stronger mental position to resist since the craving will be gone.
Good luck!
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I am now at 7 months. It has been going well so far. I still have a few blah days here and there but they are offset by some really good days. There are still days where I am not worth a crap but they becoming extremely rare and may just be related to living a normal life.
There is something that I just recently discovered has been really eye-opening for me that I would like to share. I wear an apple watch daily and I have since June 2020. I work out regularly and always have. The apple watch tracks your VO2 max over time which is a measure of the maximum amount of oxygen your body can utilize during exercise. I guess it tells you kind of how in shape you are heart and conditioning wise in regards to intense exercise. I got a notification last January on my watch that said my VO2 max was trending much lower. I didn't think much of it because I started weaning off in November and by the time I got the notification I was off for good. I was noticeably weaker from stopping the meds so I went about my business. I didn't know much about VO2 max.
Just a few weeks ago, I get the notification that it has been trending higher. I had been feeling better and more energetic during workouts. I have been alternating between the same extreme workout programs for years so I haven't done anything different in that area. I was curious so I opened the app up in my watch and looked at the chart. It was pretty telling. I started weaning off in November. My V02 max stayed around 47 From June 2020 until I started cutting my dose in November. It immediately dropped to 38. It dropped to 37 in December and 36 in January when I quit completely. Keep in mind, the same amount of working out over time. It slowly rose to 43 by May. In June it shot way up to 48 and 50 in July. It is at 53 right now. A 32-36 is an excellent score for my age but what is eye opening is this chart pretty much charted out my physical recovery from my addiction to Adderall. It is really amazing to me to pull the chart up and see that.
Hopefully that will bring hope to some of you working on getting over it. You will keep getting better each month. Keep exercising and eating right and it will add up. I can feel a great deal of difference in energy each day. I don't need the coffee I needed before. I don't need pre-workout powders to get me motivated to start and finish my workouts. I feel great when I wake up ( if I get 8 hours).
I'm still dealing with a little anxiety but meditation, exercise, sleep and a new app I found out about has been helping me overcome that and channel that anxious energy towards a focused task. Your prefrontal cortex is located in the front of your brain and that is what fires off when you take your Adderall. It is responsible for focusing and feeling good, critical thinking. When you are having trouble focusing you can close your eyes and slowly count backwards from 5. I like to picture things as I count. Like 5 cows, 4 dogs and so forth. Once you get to 1, you will have activated your prefrontal cortex and you can concentrate again on what you were doing. Its a neat trick and it works really well. Another one is the Focus at Will App. You find the tunes they have that work for you and turn them on. After 15-20 minutes of playing in your headphones, you can't really tell it is going any more. It activated your prefrontal cortex and gets you into that hyper-focused state you are used to being in when you were on Adderall. The only difference is you can turn this off and it isn't addictive. There are other tricks I have found but those work best. I'm always looking for other things.
So to sum up this post:
1) Hang in there. Your body will recover physically from this addiction and be even better off.
2) Continue to exercise, sleep and eat healthy food. This is so crucial. Treat it like a bank account. Make big deposits daily and live off the interest.
3) Download Focus at Will and try it out. Tesla, Space X, Amazon and Apple buy this for their engineers to help them produce great work.
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I weaned off and I feel like my old self after about 7 months. You can try that with your Vyvanse. I think there is an article on ADHDBoss website where the guy tells you how to dissolve your pill in water to create Vyvanse water. It has directions on how to measure it and lower the dosage to step down off of it.
My advice? Vyvanse is difficult to wean off of or stop taking for me. It made me crazy in general and gave me many side effects. Adderall is much easier to wean off of because it isn't time released and your blood stream isn't used to a constant flow of the drug. It gets your body more prepared for the comedown after quitting because you experience it so often when each pill wears off. It is also easer to cut and measure. I switched to Adderall because I knew it would be easier to stop than time released versions. I'd recommend going that route and weaning.
Look, the bottom line is that you can't take this forever or you will have a stroke or heart attack. It really wears down you nervous system and heart. The day is coming when you can't take it anymore. You can look at it as I'm going to do it while I'm in control of the timing and environment or you can wait until nature makes you do it by crippling you or putting you six feet under. That helped me mentally fight the battle when I chose to cut it off. I've never felt better. I just hope I can fight the damage it has done to me for 20+ years and live a long life going forward.
Good luck on your journey, in whatever you decide to do.
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You can do it. I have been there also. Just as you have disciplined yourself to quit adderall you can get out of debt. I was pretty deep. Almost 35k in credit card debt as well as other debts. I started in late 2018 and quickly paid it all off by 2021. The trick is to change the behavior and then divide and conquer.
I paid the minimum on my higher balances and paid as much as I could on the lowest one until it was paid off. Dave Ramsey calls it the debt snowball. He says to save up $1000 as an emergency fund before you start so you won’t have to use the cards again while paying off. I saved up 5k just in case.
Ive got 4 vehicles now with no car payments no credit card debt and I’ve been paying around 500-1000 extra principle on my mortgage each month to pay off my home early. I’ve saved up plenty of cash to help if something bad happened. I did this with the same income I had when I got into debt.
If you can battle the behavior and discipline yourself with patience you can do it. And once you pay that first card off you will be off to the races with confidence. Good luck. It was the best thing I’ve ever done.-
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There is no harm in giving it a few practice runs before you are successful. It took me several tries. I would make it a few days, a week, and got all the way up to 18 days once before I decided to taper off and stay off for good.