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Bromantane will help you. Then NSI 189 helped dissipate my depression and anxiety to a degree. There is always SAM-e
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Find a new addiction, go to the gym. Studies show for meth addicts(yes, meth is neuro toxic but it works in a similar manner) recover roughly around 3x faster with cardio! (You can find the study on my reddit post) It will also alleviate the nasty withdraws, depression, anxiety...etc
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On 3/14/2019 at 0:36 PM, LiberatedMind said:
Will it really take a few years? I do not like this, not one bit.
Everyone is going to yell at me....but I fully recovered in ~70 days. I am also currently doing an experiment(if you need to put a label on it) https://reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/acf8ze/amphetamine_recovery_bpc157_9mebc_dihexa/
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On 3/14/2019 at 3:44 PM, SeanW said:
I don’t remember your useage but the more you binged and used extremely high dosages the more it was neurotic and fried your neurons. If you stayed within a reasonable dosage your system is depleted but not so much damaged. I spent my last year of use taking 80-150 and sometimes up to 200 a day which is severely neurotoxic. I’ll be at two years clean next month and I’ve had a lot of improvement this second year. I can see by the end of year three I believe I’ll be in prettt good shape.
I want to cheer you up...Studies show adderall isn't neurotoxic until doses around 1 gram
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If you can't embrace it, I would probably recommend bromantane if you dont mind a synthetic drug. I honestly think it's an ideal drug for adderall recovery. Also, baking soda will help with stress and blood pressure. It should lead to less irritability and it's a dollar for a box!
Edit: baking soda will help with stress but not blood pressure: https://examine.com/supplements/sodium-bicarbonate/ should still work with irritability at a low cost.
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4 minutes ago, Subtracterall said:
That site works. Thanks.
No worries, good luck!
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14 minutes ago, Subtracterall said:
I tried to go to that website, but I suspect that website Is blocked in America. I get a dns error.. Here in America there is a cold medication with that same name and it contains speed. At least that is what I found just now when I googled it.
I am in America, its just a website that I used. It's trusted but I believe maybe DXM...I stumbled upon some chats on it, I don't know how it works. Just seems sketchy since its a cough syrup.... could work though!
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hmmm, thats odd. You can try going to the product directly https://brainlabz.ru/products/bromantane-ladasten-50mg-90caps-4500mg
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3 minutes ago, Subtracterall said:
Isn’t that just a super mild form of speed?
Not one bit. It works by genetics, up regulation of tyrosine hydroxylase. It's more like a form of vitamin D than anything. It's also not addicting, it just stops working. It will get bottled necked with our DNA, that's the beauty of it.
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1 hour ago, LiberatedMind said:
Your doctor prescribed it for you?
No, its a russian drug not sold here. You can find it online or a russian pharma. Brianlabz.ru should carry it.
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Bromantane will help wonders, I did around 50mg a day. It works through genetics I believe to restore the process of making dopamine. it will be sustained! It also makes you happy, non depressed, focus...etc Its a wonder drug for recovery. I did 50mg a day, for about 2 weeks.
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I am still bored & unemployed though...These stories help wonders, I fell in a terrible place in life. I am recovered in terms of health but in terms of social status, not yet. It's nice to know I am not alone and others went through & going through the same experience.
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Hey guys! Its been about two months! I am definitely recovered, lost about 20 pounds of fat and great overall shape.
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Also look up sodium butyrate, should help with your mood swings. I also advise taking forskolion and butea superba (if you have the money, it will accelerate your recovery)
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Exercise! Cardio helped me, when I was running I felt calm and good. Took away the irritability. Not only that, it helps with a quicker recovery. Dopamine receptors, Nogo-A inhibition (look it up)
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No problem! You can do the same thing I did but it will take a bit longer with natural alternatives. You will need to fix your brain gut axis you can look it up, im sure there are ways to do it naturally. Then the rest of the stuff I have there with maybe Resveratrol. I think more people would be inclined to go a natural route.
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Thanks, hopefully it will help someone! It helped me
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8 hours ago, Socially awkward said:
@komgordon I had a look at that reddit thread. Thanks for sharing. I’m not sure my stomach could keep down that many supplements. I am already taking 500mg Ltyrosine x 2 daily and 1 x ginkgo 120mg and the occasional multi vitamin which is already too much. I think I just need to stop popping pills all together and learn to deal with the consequences
Switch to 250mg of L-dopa. Go to a vitamin shop they should have it. It will work better than l-tyrosine in your case.
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I will update you guys in 2 months because I am really pissed off on the time adderall stole from me. So far its been really good to be honest, I made gigantic leaps, infact I completely forgot how it was to be normal me again, I keep getting reminded slowly. Each day it gets better. At this point, day 32. I am perfectly happy with everything in terms of health yet, day 30 I felt the same but I am better on day 32. If that makes sense. It's awesome to have thing go back as they should.
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Some people won't like this but take a look here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/acf8ze/amphetamine_recovery_bpc157_9mebc_dihexa/
I really wished someone showed me this a long time ago.
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4 hours ago, EricP said:
I have to say everything his research is all valid if you do some googling; I commend him for documenting so well and sharing.
The best neurologists and researchers haven't even scratched the surface in being able to truly "cure" any brain related disorders. We are in an era of trial and error for patients with mental ailments and diseases. The brain is very complicated and what works for one individual won't always work for the next as we are all different how we metabolize certain medications as well as what formulation is needed to support each of our chemical deficiencies.
It is hopeful that we all try some supplements or prescriptions like wellbutrin that many have said "help" this lengthy healing process. I'd just caution that highly experimental substances should likely be saved for those with neurodegenerative diseases willing to participate in research as they have much less to loose by tying these things.
The exercise and General Health Stack is all healthy advise; I'd pick and choose after that. Metabolizing this much stuff could be hard on other organs and have unknown side effects. & Bromantane is almost just like Adderall. Avoid that one!
11 hours ago, sleepystupid said:sure about that? lol
"Everything is improving at such an impressive rate. I do not want to be one of those guys that say yeah I am still recovering years later. This is just a hiccup for me, I came and saw then left. I am not going to let this define me or any part of my life. I am reading some experiences and seem some people take pride of recovering or quitting. It's not something to be prideful of, I rather just recover and forget."
of course we take pride in it. it's one of the hardest things we'll ever do. if we can do this? then we can do anything. (:
i too hope that you keep us updated on your progress, and i also hope this is genuinely working for you! it doesn't change the fact that what you're doing is dangerous and you have no scientific method to validate the effects of these ridiculous chemicals. it's certainly interesting research you've done - but if you truly wish to help people with this guide, clean up your methodology and remove the ego.
11 hours ago, sleepystupid said:sure about that? lol
"Everything is improving at such an impressive rate. I do not want to be one of those guys that say yeah I am still recovering years later. This is just a hiccup for me, I came and saw then left. I am not going to let this define me or any part of my life. I am reading some experiences and seem some people take pride of recovering or quitting. It's not something to be prideful of, I rather just recover and forget."
of course we take pride in it. it's one of the hardest things we'll ever do. if we can do this? then we can do anything. (:
i too hope that you keep us updated on your progress, and i also hope this is genuinely working for you! it doesn't change the fact that what you're doing is dangerous and you have no scientific method to validate the effects of these ridiculous chemicals. it's certainly interesting research you've done - but if you truly wish to help people with this guide, clean up your methodology and remove the ego.
Adderall causes downregulation of dopamine. Reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2670101/ it states here. Bromantane is important because it will counter act this and fix this. Alot of people that are neurotypicals or healthy don't even notice a difference from bromantane. It is also reported by users that they don't get a tolerance on it. I am kinda over working on this and I am studying for the lstat right now. All I have to say is, that I am studying like how I was before...even when I was on adderall. Of course I don't get the stimulanted feeling. I personally thought adderall gave me tunnel vision and wished I could study without it. Now that I have a healthy body.. I am definetely studying but not for a long duration. I get over it in a couple of hours. Which is not a problem from the learning curve and all. Basically I am studying like everyone else.
These drugs won't get approved. BPC 157, it woud be illogical for any company to fund a trial for something they can't make a profit from. Its a natural forming peptide. 9-Me-Bc is great but it will only fix someone with Parkinsons for a couple of weeks then the disease will take over and remain persistent. It won't sell at all. It is great for our case though. DIhexa is definitely the most 'dangerous' one. It has been picked up by the micheal j fox foundation for research. Dihexa is the only candidate that will ever get fda approved if it ever will.
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4 hours ago, sleepystupid said:
^this.
@komgordon something to consider about your plan.. you are doing and taking so many things at the same time, it is impossible to say what is actually effective. this is like saying, "i'm really cold. i'm going to turn on 14 space heaters and ALSO take some experimental drugs that MIGHT make my skin more sensitive to heat." you see the problem here? you say yourself at the beginning of the guide: "Granted, I am coming from no exercise, adderall, smoking, heavy caffeine use, heavy drinking on some weekends all coupled with a poor diet." you could be feeling great simply from the diet and exercise, some subtle effects from supplements, research chemicals are doing nothing. hell - you could be feeling good simply because you're actively engaged in this experiment/project and getting little dopamine hits from the external validation of posting on Reddit. that's the best case scenario.
the worst case scenario? those research chemicals are actually harming you, but you can't tell yet because you are feeling subjectively better relative to terrible withdrawal symptoms. you're not measuring something quantitative here, nor are you using any standardized assessment of your subjective experience. PAWS is also known to come and go in waves.
i don't mean to discourage you because it seems you've put a lot of effort into this, but this approach is not very scientific to begin with. to be honest though, my bigger concern is around presenting something like this as "science" to a community of addicts in recovery who are desperate and often willing to try anything - your plan looks awfully expensive and dangerous.
that all being said, i am glad to read that you are feeling better after 4 months? that's great news! despite my criticism of your plan, i genuinely hope this is the attempt that finally brings you to a full recovery! (:
Thanks, I understand the risks. You have no clue what I went through and how low I got. I made great leaps of improvements the past two weeks. This isn't for everyone and I notice that now. However, it is for me and I have been really satisfied with the results. I just want to say that I came, I saw and left. Leave this behind me. I don't want to be one of those guys that says recovery is rough, I am barely recovering after 2 years. It is not a badge of honor or something to be proud of. Adderall helped destroy two good years of my youth that I will never get back. Why would I keep sacrificing my youth to this? I want my life back, I want myself back and I have been achieving that. Yes, I understand gobbling down a bunch of stuff blindly is not a good idea. It's not what I am doing. In all honestly, I could care less whether or not anyone follows anything on it but I made more improvements in 18 days using my plan than I did in 4 months. I also linked it a bunch of times because I really wished someone wrote one and I stumbled upon it a long time ago. In fact, if you were to ask me about two weeks ago about stims... I would had said I might give adderall another chance. Now, I won't even go near it. Having my neurochemistry working properly has effected my psychological need for adderall. Either or, I wish you the best in your recovery or methods. I respect your method of recovering and I am not saying your methods are old or outdated. In fact you can probably be recognized as a good influence to others trying to recover. You can tell them how hard recovery was, how much pain and sorrow you had also the time you lost for ever, so they can have something to relate to.
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On 1/7/2019 at 0:12 AM, Misanthropissed said:
I've seen all the claims about BPC and the research chemicals/nootropics. It all seems like a terrible idea to me. Quick fixes and drugs are how we got into this mess. I'll be damned if I'm going to inject myself with some unapproved research chemical that I read about on a Reddit post with broken English. I'm not going to try to play medical doctor/scientist while my brain is functioning worse than it ever was. All that sounds like a terrible idea that will make our conditions worse. I'll stick with diet, exercise, and time. I appreciate your reply but that sounds like a great way to cause more damage.
No worries man. Wish you the best of luck. It's your body and your recovery. However, I did want to ask one thing. What was it exactly that you saw broken English? Lack of grammar skills? Lexicon? Or...? I wish to be an I.P. attorney and constructive criticism would be appreciated.
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I stumbled upon this an interesting compound in an organic substance. Salidroside. Without a doubt will help with recovery. I would recommend still stacking it with L-tyrosine, Forskolin (re-sensitize D2 receptors) & buetasuperba (increase cAmp levels). Adderall works by raising cAmp levels; flooding your brain with dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin (not as a high affinity). Eventually, your D2 receptors will downregulate alongside with cAmp. By flooding your brain with dopamine, the neurons (dopamine neurons) are going to eventually die. You can wait until they regrow back at a slow rate or induce the growth with Salidroside (see product and resource below).
It's pretty late right now but the only other natural resource I can think about is NAD and vitamin D (increase tyrosine hydroxylase). I dont have resources\links but both are certainly linked to Adderall recovery.
You will also have to find the articles for Bueta Superba and Forskolin but buetasuperba is a PDE inhibitor which stops the breakdown of cAmp.
I also wrote a guide about a year ago. I since then have recovered, but I always wanted to revisit it. I haven't stopped learning and researching; I definitely could add a few contributions to it.
A pure form of Salidroside: https://www.predatornutrition.com/nootropic-supplements/hydrapharm/salidroside.html
Resource: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24323403