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  1. I recently shared my story. My husband and I are months away from finalizing our divorce. He was supposed to get off the pills last July. He tried and failed. He keeps moving the goal post. He has extremely erratic behavior. For example, our daughter woke up with the stomach flu on Easter morning and I offered to bring over oral Zofran prescribed to her from a pediatrician. He refused to give it to her, went to the hospital on his vacation day, put his scrubs on, badged in, stole an IV, Zofran, Lidocaine and administered an IV on our 3-year-old at home. The divorce is very contentious, as you can imagine, but yet just weeks ago gave me a $1,000 gift card to a spa for my birthday. He seemed like he was taking his pills for the last several weeks because he was very nice, normal, but I know it's always fleeting. For weeks telling me he wants to go to therapy, work it out, he loves me, attempting to kiss me, complimenting me incessantly. He tried for days to hang out and spend time together and go on a date (like a trial run, he said). Our marriage was the trial run...I never agreed to anything or spent time alone with him. I told him he needed to get off his pills for good, not for a few days or a week, but permanently and then we would evaluate in counseling. Quite frankly, I don't know that I could ever get past everything he has said and done and I certainly don't want to be with this version of him. I think our marriage is likely past saving, but I like to think if he ever got off his pills and was the person I once knew that maybe I could forgive him and we could find a way back for the sake of our two small children. I knew this would likely be fleeting and sure enough, he hadn't taken his pills and I called to wake him up at 10 am last week because he was sleeping through our daughter's preschool party (she was with him and missing it). He went beserk, telling me he was a fool for trying to make it work with me, even though the night before he was begging me to go on a date with him. It was not a big deal, yet everything is a deal breaker to him. I always say the punishment never fits the crime. I was able to have somewhat of a conversation with him about the pills last week. He admits he abused them, but claims only "once or twice." He has an answer for everything... When I mentioned him getting extra pills from friends, it was purely because his schedule was so busy and when he couldn't get in to see his doctor for a refill on time there would be a gap so he would just get extra from friends until his appointment. He told me "Adderall is not addictive. There are no withdrawal symptoms - you can only get withdrawal from alcohol, benzos, or opiods." Yet, he was oddly using a tapering system last July and told me he couldn't get off cold turkey. He said, "I have never had withdrawal symptoms, it's out of your system so fast." He says it's only 1% of people that have aggression/hostility on Adderall and it would've happened when he first started taking them, not many years down the road. He says he's always been a binge drinker, but he's not an alcoholic. I never ever witnessed binge drinking or any issues with alcohol for many years until the last 3 years when I believe he had the most stress, he abused the pills, and I have known him for 9 years now. He blames his temper on his dad, but I never witnessed his temper anything like what I have seen for the last 1.5 years (no accountability, someone else is always to blame). He said verbatim, "You know I am not an addict. I have never been addicted to anything in my life. Now, if you say I had a psychological dependence on them you could be correct. An addict feels a compulsion to take the pills every day. If I am an addict then how can I go days without taking them?" I think he hoards and binges. He says he is going to get off them in October after oral boards are complete and that I can't ask him to get off now, because I have no clue what his life is like. He said it's a crutch, it's makes his life easier and helps him study, but that's it. He acts like I am a complete idiot and the drugs have played no role in anything. I am happy to hear any feedback. He is in the thick of it and cannot see what it's doing to him -- is there anything I could ever say or do to get him to come to reality? Is there anything I could show him that would help him see things as they are and see he needs help?
  2. @JSS4321I swear I could have written this post with a couple minor changes. I am unsure if you still ever get on here, but I was wondering how things ended up for you. I know this was written back in 2017, but I am currently in the thick of it. We are in the middle of the divorce process. Everything you wrote is almost the exact same situation for me. Did your husband ever get off adderall?
  3. 100% agree with that. Sometimes I look at him and it sounds like the person I married, looks like the person I married, but I know it's not. If he's normal and like his old self for a bit it's always fleeting. I just give it a a few days and I am dealing with a cruel, erratic, volatile person again. These pills can certainly ruin relationships. I have found so many posts on this site that I could've written because it's so eerily similar to my own story. Everyone has pretty much told me the same thing. This isn't rock bottom for him and he'll keep going until he does reach it, unfortunately. I just read your own story and wanted to say how sorry I am to hear about everything you've been through. That is truly horrific. I hope you also find happiness and are able to rebuild and heal your relationship with your kids. I hope your wife is able to get clean down the road. Congratulations on your job as well!
  4. Thank you for the kind reply. The truth is I am not even sure how bad the extent of the abuse was, only he knows exactly what he was doing and he will never be honest with me. This has been a really dark time in my life, but trying to hold it together and hoping one day he will get clean for our kids sake. Most people don't typically understand how addictive adderall can be or what can happen when it's abused at high doses long-term; I certainly didn't until last year. I scoured the internet for so many months looking for answers. People are often so confused when I tell them he has an adderall/vyvanse addiction and is no longer the same person I once knew. I think largely because it's a prescription and every other person you talk to is on it so people think it must be something else that is going on.
  5. I found this site about 6 months ago, while researching adderall and vyvanse and desperately seeking answers. This website has saved my sanity. Thank you to everyone who has shared their story. My husband and I met back in 2016 after he completed his first year of medical school. I moved across the country to be with him and we got married at the end of 2018. I knew early on he was on adderall, but I did not know anything specifically about adderall. He told me he went to a provider back in college to get a prescription while he was pre-med. I am not in the medical field, have never been on any medications and never had a reason to do a deep dive on these drugs until last year. I was incredibly naive to say the least, but hindsight is 20/20. I knew he had these pills he took and before board exams he would often get extra from other classmates or friends. While he was in medical school he was prince charming. He was charismatic, a gentleman, outgoing, life of the party, kind, empathetic, compassionate, etc. All I heard was how much he wanted to be a father and a husband and have a family. His parents and my parents are still together after 30+ years of marriage and he always told me he was the "never get divorced" type. He assured me of how much of a family man he was. I pretty much doted on him all of medical school, cooking for him, supporting him financially, doing his laundry, errands, etc. to lighten his load so he could focus on school. We moved across the country yet again (2020) once he matched into residency. I got pregnant and had our first baby after his first week of starting his anesthesia residency in 2021. We made the decision together I would get pregnant when I did and that I would stop working to stay home with our daughter. To condense years of our life, I started seeing Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I started to see massive binge-drinking and worried about his drinking constantly. I started seeing massive sleep issues. If he was off work he would sleep until 1 or 2 pm. He would tell me he was going to get up and study all day and we could do things as a family in the evening if he got a full day of studying in. Inevitably, he would toss and turn all night and fall asleep in the wee hours of the morning and sleep until the afternoon. Get up and pop a pill and study until past midnight. Our sleep schedule slowly stopped aligning. I would be going to sleep and he would be up jogging around the neighborhood at 11 pm/midnight. Exercising until he vomited I think to come down from the amphetamines. In hindsight, I think drinking to also come down. I didn't feel like my daughter and I were a priority, but whenever I would talk to him about my concerns he would say, it was just residency and the only way out was through. I started seeing a massive lack of empathy, comparing my traumatic emergency c-section where I lost a liter of blood to a broken arm he had as child, for example. He blamed his drinking and sleep issues on residency and I believed him. He kept telling me things would get better once he was out of residency and we could finally be a normal family. He would get extra pills from friends prior to board exams while in residency and now looking back, I think he was hoarding his pills. He told me himself he was doubling up prior to his last exam in July of 2024. He toggled back and forth from adderall and vyvanse throughout the years. There's a lot more to it, but my family basically helped financially support us while he was in residency, believing it to be a temporary situation. They bought us the house we lived in and let him pay whatever he wanted. He accepted a job and I knew we were moving back to my hometown after residency was done to be near family. He begged me for another child and after putting him off for a while I finally agreed. I got pregnant and when I was 4 months pregnant last January (2024) he basically sat me down and told me we were no longer in love, he wasn't buying a house with me or getting financially entangled with me. We had just gotten pre-qualified to buy a house that week. He was 6 months out from being done with residency and us starting our lives together. All I heard for years was how much he loved me, couldn't do this without me, etc. We had our problems and we weren't in the honeymoon stage by any means, residency had taken a toll on us, but I think at the time we absolutely could have salvaged our marriage. Prior to January 2024, I would have never called him abusive. He became very verbally abusive, emotionally abusive, financially abusive, crossed the line physically a few times, all while I was pregnant and postpartum. I started seeing the man I love turn into a monster. Throughout the months one minute telling me how much he loves me, wants to make it work, doesn't want to split up our family, to 72 hours later telling me we're divorcing. We moved states and he moved out two weeks later and left me with our newborn and 3 year old. His rage and anger became out of control. I started looking into all of his supplements, researching bipolar disorder trying to understand what was going on with him. When I finally had a lightbulb go off and started researching amphetamines and started talking to him about it, he became enraged. He says I can't handle that the problem is staring me in the face every day and so I have to make it about drugs. He has been on these pills for 15 years now. When we moved he tried getting off the pills, which was the peak of the crazy. I found him in the bath at 7 am sweating profusely when he had been in a deep sleep. The next time I talked to him he was back on the pills. He denies they have played a role in his personality change and the destruction of our marriage. Yet, he is still on these pills. He has a different excuse for staying on them each time I talk to him. He has turned into such a liar, which I never used to think he lied. He filed for divorce over the holidays. We have a 3 year old and a 10 month old and just recently learned our 10 month old has a very rare neurological disorder. He wouldn't go to church with me, wouldn't go to intensive couples therapy, therapy for himself, or see a psychologist. I got him referrals. I put myself in therapy and our daughter as well. He told me at one point his dopamine was screwed and I believe it. I saw depression throughout the years. He takes no joy in anything anymore and has become very isolated. He seems a shell of his former self. I begged him not to file and to give us time to be a family for even 6 months and to get off the pills. His story changed every month why we were divorcing, but largely that he will "never be happy with me" although he was happy with me for years. I read books on strengthening our marriage and communication and he was reading books on divorce and telling me the kids will be fine. Everything is about him. He is always the victim, he has 0 remorse for anything he says or does, no accountability. He won't admit he has a pill problem, a drinking problem, or that he is very abusive now. I don't recognize the person I married anymore. I know what I see isn't normal. His behavior is super erratic. He has even mentioned not going through with the divorce twice this month alone. I have never seen or heard of a transformation like this. Sometimes it feels like my life is a movie, a horrible nightmare. He says his behavior changed because our marriage changed. I recently learned that he also had a cocaine addiction prior to meeting me, which I had no clue about. We are currently in the thick of our divorce and some days I will wake up in the morning to extremely crazy, verbose tirades that are almost delusional at all hours of the night when he should be sleeping. I know he abused these pills at high doses for years. Before we moved he was given a script for 90 pills of vyvanse at 60 mg. He was often operating on 4 hours of sleep and popping a pill, drinking on these pills, chewing nicotine, and drinking coffee and taking caffeine pills on top of it trying to make it through the shifts at work. I guess my question is - does this sound largely related to addiction? Or could there be another explanation? Has anyone ever gotten clean with this type of abuse and stayed clean? If he does ever get fully clean will he understand the wreckage he created?
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