17 Years old. My life is already over 500mg>/Day Binges

[Tom23Jones]

30 minutes ago, MarTheophilus said:

If you haven’t tried it yet, kratom might help you get away from Adderall, and it is completely salubrious in moderation.

 

i love Adderall, it’s life changing for work but I too have made the mistake of taking too much in order to get strong effects. Just went through 120mg today and I am disappointed so I did a web search to see what kinds of similar stories there were online and if there were any tips to control it. 
I need this drug, but stories like yours make me think it should be used sparingly. 
 

I'd be careful recommending Kratom.  I'm sure it probably is more sustainable than adderall but the few people I know that use Kratom, take it Every. Single. Day. and I've heard the withdrawls are pretty brutal.  I considered it at one point but I don't really get excited about being dependent on something new.

You mention you love adderall but just binged 120mg today.  I get it man I used to love it too until I fucking hated it.  You say you need it and we all fucking believed we "needed" it but trust me when I tell you that you don't brother... something led you to these forums so I believe deep inside your ready to get off the shit. You don't sound quite ready but your definitely moving out of the honeymoon phase of adderall.

[MarTheophilus]

You heard wrong about kratom. No, it has 0 withdrawals as long as you take it In moderation. As I have drank coffee for years without problems, I have drank kratom for years without problems, I mean that, no fiending, no withdrawals, no over intoxication (which is pretty hard to do with kratom because it’s so mellow. You should read from the American Kratom Association. You’re being lied to brother, I don’t know what those people were doing, but they weren’t doing it right. Kratom is fantastic and no more addictive than coffee, which, if you take too much of, has terrible withdrawals. So go get some kratom my man, and don’t listen to the hype.  Read David Kroll’s article on Forbes about the science of kratom and how the only people in his interviews that suffered were those who took kratom extract in high doses. 
No, I do love Adderall, because it can save your life if you need to wake up when driving and coffee isn’t working or if you are running dangerous and expensive equipment like I am and you need to focus. You don’t have to take it all the time, that’s how I am gonna take it, as needed because it works better. I also love how so many people like my coworker Brian said it greatly improved the quality of his life. He trained his brain to work differently so he didn’t need it everyday, now he just takes it once in a while. 
I just got on here to see if anyone had methodically microdosed adderal in order to eliminate the negative effects of accidentally having too much. you have a jaded point of view brother, these things are only as you make them. Millions of people like me use them to improve the quality of their life. You just need to stick to a wise regimen. If you don’t take more than your doctor prescribes and you don’t depend on it every day, Adderall is a very useful drug. 
As for the 120mg I took, have you ever had too much coffee or alcohol? I have, and it’s very uncomfortable. I once had 4 shots of expresó because we didn’t understand the espresso machine we were using. Man, it was so intense and disgusting feeling. But that doesn’t make coffee and alcohol something I have to stay away from.  It was 120 mg over a 24 hour period, not all at once. I am prescribed 30mg pills so it’s only 4 pillsWhen I realized I didn’t feel good, and concluded that I had taken too much, I took about 5mg of the XR beeds and crunched them in my mouth every hour; and I felt fine. Did this every hour for 3 hours and I felt totally fine.  Biggest problem was that I couldn’t sleep and felt nervous , other than that I learned some some pretty beautiful guitar riffs with the energy and focus that this med provided me. 
Quitting this medicine would be a bad choice for me, I am only on here because I wanted the poster to know that I love him and that I feel for him. You can’t respond with signing up. I came across it when I started wondering what kind of misfortunes people have suffered from taking too much. 

Notice that the 

seriously my friend, you’ve been lied to about drugs, go look up “Dr, Carl Hart, Methamphetamine fact vs fiction,” on YouTube.

you need to see the honest research on d Amohetamine next to methamphetamine, which are the same drug just the methyl group is different. Yes, Meth and Adderall are the same drug and meth is also prescribed by doctors with success to treat disease. In the hands of a responsible professional, Desoxyn (prescription Meth) helps people. Look up, “Desoxyn user reviews drugs.com, you’ll see that prescription merhamphetamine has helped these people live better lives, and they say it has fewer side effects than Adderall. 

Like Adderall, when used correctly that drug changes people’s lives for the better. Note: we should all agree that buying meth on the street is among the stupidest things you can do and using street methamphetamine is not wise.

As an accredited scientist Carl Hart makes many good points about how drug hysteria harms the public. Hysteria like what you heard about kratom. They found that 85% of people who use drugs do not have a problem with them. Yes the 15% that do have some very serious problems, but that doesn’t mean all people do. They studied drugs like heroin, meth and cocaine and found that this was true. I found it to be a little surprising. Now, I would say don’t ever buy those drugs in the street, it’s not worth the legal risk and the people who sell them are being irresponsible for selling them without care or guidelines to prevent suffering. 

Yes, those commercials about Meth are hysteria, exaggerating the harms of that drug. I know man, it might sound crazy but you can’t refute the data. Adderall is the same. Some people call it evil but that’s stupid, it has helped millions of people like me to be more productive. I think our doctors are failing us, because they aren’t giving people a better education about these things when they give them. We need to do this will all drugs.
The most dangerous drug in society is alcohol. Already in 2020 500,000 people have lost their lives because of misusing alcohol. Think about that. If only they were using it correctly they wouldn’t have died. It’s sad and it needs to change. As a follower of Jesus Christ, I’m told “do not get drunk, it leads to debauchery.” And so I always follow that and I never suffer from using this great drug. Had a Samuel Sadam’s winter ale last night and it was delightful. All we really need my friend, is good guidelines and better assistance with meds, you know?

 If you ever find yourself saying, “I heard that stuff...(insert defaming statement here)” make sure you go and find out if what you heard was a lie. In this case, it was. 
If you read the Washington Times Newspaper in 1937 you would have heard about the “new deadly” drug called “marihuana,” and you’d be saying similarly, “don’t use marijuana, I heard that stuff is deadly.”

Research shows that 0 people have died from cannabis intoxication and Donald Tashkin at UCLA showed it does not cause lung cancer. But we all know that smoking too much isn’t good...so we should not do that, ever. 

If you have read this far, I commend you, and I appreciate it. I am very eager to spread truthful information about drugs because the lies And misinformation about them have put many people in cages and have kept people away from medicine like Adderall, which is very helpful when used correctly. 

“I heard lsd fries your brain” a good lad once said...but then you read and find that the the original scientist who discovered LSD sent it to many universities to test it on themselves and they all loved it and late found great success in treating depression, alcoholism and psychosis. You can find brain scans that show LSD does not fry your brain as ignorant people claim. But then the US government wanted to use it as a weapon so they banned it and started lying about it to the whole world. So don’t believe what you’ve heard, but believe good research. 

for the minority of drug users who are struggling with drug addiction, recreational and pharmaceutical, I know that it can be hell, don’t hear me wrong. The original post is something that makes me upset because I wish there were more people around him to help the good lad and at least at the time of his post, there weren’t.   
 

what if that same lad had a system where he could go get 1-30mg pill a day from his school or from a pharmacist when he needed it? Because he admits that he can’t control it, he needs someone who cares for him that will help him to use it correctly. Then he could prosper. But he was taking way too much and that’s the only reason he suffered so badly. We need a better medical system man....you know?

I pray that God will bless everyone who suffers from abusing D-amphetamine and for those who suffer from taking too much of any drug, so that they can overcome their burden with fresh new lives.

You say I am in the honeymoon phase with Adderall and I see what you mean, but consider that the real problem you have is your doctor’s bad guidelines.

perhaps Adderall should only be taken a few times a week, or just once in a while. My coworker Brian does that and he has seen great success  

peace  

 
 

[Tom23Jones]

1 hour ago, MarTheophilus said:

You heard wrong about kratom. No, it has 0 withdrawals as long as you take it In moderation. As I have drank coffee for years without problems, I have drank kratom for years without problems, I mean that, no fiending, no withdrawals, no over intoxication (which is pretty hard to do with kratom because it’s so mellow. You should read from the American Kratom Association. You’re being lied to brother, I don’t know what those people were doing, but they weren’t doing it right. Kratom is fantastic and no more addictive than coffee, which, if you take too much of, has terrible withdrawals. So go get some kratom my man, and don’t listen to the hype.  Read David Kroll’s article on Forbes about the science of kratom and how the only people in his interviews that suffered were those who took kratom extract in high doses. 

You say I am in the honeymoon phase with Adderall and I see what you mean, but consider that the real problem you have is your doctor’s bad guidelines.

perhaps Adderall should only be taken a few times a week, or just once in a while. My coworker Brian does that and he has seen great success  

peace  

 
 

I only expressed my personal experience of close friends who take Kratom.  They take it every day and multiple times per day.  That just doesn't appeal to me, I don't want to be dependent on anything to feel a certain mood or motivation.

As for Adderall, I took the shit a few times per week and as prescribed for years and I would have told you the same thing about how great it makes life and its such an enhancer for focus and productivity and mood.  I thought I found the cheat code but theres no free lunch in life.  Eventually that shit lost its magic and the only way to get that same feeling is a little more and little more.  At the end I was binging 120 to 160mg daily and consumed by the need to attain more pills. It led to panic attacks and constant anxiety and me doing shit that I would normally never do.  So moderation is not an option for myself and most of the people on here.  

Maybe you have the discipline to take it a few times  a week for a lifetime and thats cool.  Live and let live 

Peace ☮ ✌

[SleepyStupid]

1 hour ago, MarTheophilus said:

I just got on here to see if anyone had methodically microdosed adderal in order to eliminate the negative effects of accidentally having too much. you have a jaded point of view brother, these things are only as you make them. Millions of people like me use them to improve the quality of their life. You just need to stick to a wise regimen. If you don’t take more than your doctor prescribes and you don’t depend on it every day, Adderall is a very useful drug. 

lol, i think you're on the wrong forum my friend. try Bluelight instead. good luck with your "wise regimen".

[m34]

I relate to this! Back when adderall really worked for me the years it “changed my life” and “I would just take as prescribed or as needed. “ everyone else was abusing it I was prescribed... all the pretty little lies I told myself. 

Calm before the storm. That’s what’s so evil about this drug. It gets you hooked without even realizing it. 
 

I would have defended it to the end. It’s therapeutic “My doctor this and researched that.” “It’s not the same as meth.” It’s changed my life.
You couldn’t have told me different.  We have all been where you are. We hear you. when your ready to quit come back on here. It’s not a matter of if, but when. sadly it’s the same for all the millions of people who it’s effective for...just a matter of time. 

[purplepen]

Hi, I am literally in tears after reading your post. I am so sorry that you are going thru this. I truly am because I know the pain the love the hate the struggle the insanity.  It is so hard to see the light when you are so deep down and feeling that nothing will be ok...I can't take that away from you. I can't tell you right now that things will be ok or that you are ok because that is NOT your reality. In your life right now you do not see hope. As an outsider looking in on your situation, I do see hope. I don't think you would be on this site if you didn't feel a little bit of hope for yourself. I know its scary, especially when you feel like you have completely changed as a person and that life will never be the same.

I don't want to give you advice because I struggle too but when I was at my absolute worst about 8 years ago, I had nothing in my point of view to live for. I was simply existing and making terrible decisions day in and day out..just waiting to disappear. I didn't want to take my life away, like you I love life, I enjoy it, I love my family..but I just felt so hollow and truly like I didn't matter at all. The only thing that saved me was going into treatment. 

I beg you to give treatment a chance. your situation sounds extremely concerning and I am deeply worried about you. You are very VERY VERY young and the amount you are taking is considered lethal. Please get help. Please don't ever feel like getting help will make you look bad or hurt your family or whatever you might be thinking. Trust me, as a parent myself, I would want my child to ask me for help no matter what because the other option is death. I don't know how your relationship is with your family, but even if you don't have one with them, go somewhere, talk to someone, get into an inpatient treatment. Being in inpatient will help you go thru the detox safely. It will make coming off safe and manageable. You can detox and get on some antidepressants or something to help with the imbalance- wellbutrin is wonderful for people like us, it helps a lot.

It sounds like you have a good circle of friends that do not support your using, they will be waiting for you when you get out of treatment. Then go to meetings do whatever you got to do to never look back. You can make it thru this.

I hope nothing I said was to aggressive but I sincerely am so concerned about you. You deserve to have a life, a great life...your life is just now starting..you can do SO much. 

 

Please keep in touch.