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On 2/20/2018 at 9:04 AM, hyper_critical said:
MASSIVE increase in mental clarity, but it took time. I don't "get off" on my thoughts like I used to hopped up on speed, but I am FAR more effective than I ever was on Adderall.
God that is a great way to put it! I thought I loved to “think” on Adderall, although in hindsight that is basically all I did was “think” with little to no action later in my use....weird
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How old are you?
My journey sounds similiar to you...was on for 17 yrs and only off 6 months. I took 10 mg forever and had gotten up to 40 mg just with last 2 years of my 17 years, when the noticeable side effects started occurring. And never binged or abused, and like you struggle off and on...
Something else to think about is for women our hormones start to deplete as early as mid 30s and only get worse and can cause similar symptoms.... depression, lack of joy... And I crave an Adderall to help on those blah days...having today, but I kinda just say screw it and get through it some how...because like others, if not stopping now, when? I CANNOT imagine being a 70 yr old woman on Adderall. Or a 70 year old woman trying to get off of Adderall....
When I feel like this, this site is where I come. Thank goodness for this place.
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I think whatever you need to set yourself up to not use Adderall...For me making sure I did what I could to help my body, ie only having healthy food in the house and not drinking, because I knew having a hangover was always a trigger for me...we’ll I can just pop an Adderall and get rid of the hangover. Or a carb coma was another “reason” to pop one.
I think the less guilt trip you give yourself the better, soooo a pass as long as you need and you need as long as you need to not use again...
I just did something I would NEVER have imagined 6 months ago when i quit...did a 1000 mile road trip coincidentally on my anniversary date...anything is possible.
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Hmmm ...Not a good category to "win"...17 years.
Never abused, up to 40mg/day last year or 2.
Quit cold turkey 6 months ago.
WHEW
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On 1/18/2018 at 2:42 PM, sleepystupid said:i'd be careful with this. while it is not an amphetamine, and it's effects on the brain are probably different, it can be easy to fall into a "rebound" addiction to "getting a ton done". the industry may claim it has less abuse potential, but that's for normal people. as recovering addicts, we have a much higher risk of becoming dependent on performance enhancers.
modafinil is new enough that you won't find too many studies or long term experiences to evaluate it's safety. but i'm sure this is the case for any new drug..
I totally agree with you. I threw it out along with all my other nootropics. Had bad anxiety (which I never have) and depression from not taking and just do NOT want another pill to control me...Now experiencing set backs from withdrawals from this crap, which is frustrating, but pretty sure its’ my mind and body’s way of saying I need to work with what I’ve got and learn how to do that without a pill. Thanks
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I am at 5 months and also struggle with finding the right words, but also find it much easier just to laugh it off.
One of the BIGGEST positives that I wasn't even aware I was so lacking in during my 17 year Adderall use....LAUGHTER!
I actually find myself giggling again and at first it almost felt foreign, then soooo good.
Adderall in my later use made me more socially withdrawn and awkward (like too focused on everything), something I usually didn't struggled with...
I definitely feel I need to find a purpose, but am finding I don't have the energy, motivation and self confidence to try anything new....so NOW WHAT?
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Sucks, because, like Adderall, I got a ton done...also not necessarily a good thing...but pretty difficult to find anything really bad on it....frustrating.
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Interesting. I wonder how old you are? And if it also at a certain age range we start to wonder what it is all for? and about?
I'm only at 5months and always struggled with that question and constantly searched for new things, jobs, locations and for the first time am still....difficult and challenging.
The rest is definitely getting better. More good than bad.
congrats on you all for your 20+ months.
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I've been trying several different Nootropics with varying degrees of success. I forgot I had order Modalert 200mg and took today. I'm approaching the 5month off Adderall mark and while I miss it, will never be on that crap again, nor any other psychiatric medications/drugs.
Whew...was wondering what anyone else's experience were...are?
There's no way this is a Nootropic in the sense that is doesn't cause harm...feels WAY TOO Adderall-like. And unfortunately I took 2....
Really odd, kind of helped remind me why Adderall was so bad for me, some of the physical side effects I got from Adderall I am experiencing with Modalert. Trouble with body temperature regulations, rapid heartbeat, jittery feeling, shaky hands. I may try just 200mg one day, but probably not soon .... Just curious if anyone else has any experience with...
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On 12/31/2017 at 1:45 PM, Frank B said:
Well after a months time still feel this supplement is beneficial. Id actually compare the results to Wellbutrin. No it’s not a magic pill but yes it does help with depression. I’m going to continue taking this maybe test out a little higher or lower dosage see what happens.
glad to hear. What brand are you using? I've been having pretty good results anti-depressant results with aniracetam and just ordered a couple of others to try ...Glad you are having some success.
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On 12/29/2017 at 4:48 PM, Leslie Johnson said:
@sleepystupid @hyper_critical @EricP Thank you guys, so much. I appreciate the support.
I was feeling pretty hopeless on the night I posted this. Sometimes I find myself researching too much about what's wrong with me, and not enough about what I can do to improve myself. This is definitely the most challenging/unique battles I've ever had to overcome in my life. One moment I feel as if there is light at the end of the tunnel, and the next moment I find myself doubting that anything positive could be at the end of the road due to how long I've been struggling. I'm almost to the 6 month mark.
I'm not any worse, I do have to say I've made improvements. But I still feel like there's a lot of time and struggle between now and the time that I'll feel content with where my outlook on life is.
Positives I've Noticed:
- I'm starting not to have nightmares as much.
- I laugh and smile a little bit more.
- I've been getting things done around the house more often.
- I joined a fitness program that I think I'm going to like.
- My anxiety frequency and intensity is a little bit less intense than times in the past.
Struggle Areas:
- I do still have anxiety, worrying about what the future holds.
- Doctors have not been able to help..
- I struggle with hopelessness.
- Constantly trying to figure out if there's an easy-way-out.. knowing there's not and it just takes time.
- Anhedonia.
Again, thank you guys! I am so thankful for this site and those who contribute.
Good list. I feel the same going on 5 months. I have found that dabbling with different nootropics has helped me. Also I've found loved ones are great for reminding you of the positives they see in you since you quit as well. And I've had to learn to just give myself a break sometimes and not be so hard on myself. Continued good luck to you...and all of us!
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On 12/15/2017 at 4:13 PM, sleepystupid said:
i've tried piracetam back in the day, and i don't remember it being very helpful. this new phenylpiracetam sounds like it's much more potent- did you have any positive experiences with it? obviously nothing is going to be stimulating in the same way as adderall, but that's probably the last thing any of us here want (:
Yes the first day was not adderall, but similiar without the comedown., and definitely builds up tolerance quickly, which is fine. And learning that I don't need it but if it can help me get through my first year adderall-free, and not be harmful, then I'm all for it.
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Thanks Frank, I may order and try. So far aniracetam seems to be pretty good for both motivation and depression. I've tried every almost different anti-depressant and always have horrible side effects...and I'm not really depressed, just never learned that I don't need listen to my mind so much! Nor follow it!.
Glad for you.
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Curious how you're doing with lithium orotate as well. I recently found info on it and keep revisiting.
Am cycling off and on aniracetam and phenylpiracetam with fleeting success.
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Laughing and a return of a sense of humor! Didn't even know it had gone!
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Yup. Agree with you 100%. I'm just at 3 months after being on for 17 years. Unbelievable really. And what I just realized after reading your post is that I felt like Adderall made me like or enjoy myself and being by myself, now being by myself...I am really BY MY SELF and it does feel really really alone...lonely. But don't have energy or motivation to do anything about it... Definitely good and bad days. Physically I can't imagine taking that stuff again...that's the part I have to remember when feeling like this...good luck to all of us.
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On 1/19/2016 at 11:16 PM, Frank B said:
Reminds me of suicidal tendencies
I adored Suicidal Tendencies...been a long while since I've heard them mention...haha great memories
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On 9/21/2017 at 11:23 AM, Subtracterall said:
Last year when I was 42 I had acute vein failure in some of my leg veins.
Here is how it went down: One day at work I was sitting at my desk and all of a sudden I could feel a lot of downward pressure in my calves. It turns out the blood pressure induced by Adderall plus sitting at my computer for long stretches literally "blew out" the one way valves that transport venous blood return from the body to the heart.
There is only one other person on this site who reported the same side effect. She was in her twenties when it happened to her.
It was scary and painful. Leaky veins made my ankles swell. I had cankles and could barely walk or even sit in a chair without serious discomfort.
I had both small saphanous veins plus some others lasered shut. It fixed the problem temporarily and I thought I could go back on adderall in a smal dose, but when I did get back on adderall, I blew out more veins in my legs. Then I Had to get both large saphanous veins lasered out on the second go round of treatments.
Treatments and compression therapy cost me approx six thousand dollars in medical copays and deductibles. Funny that I have what is considered "good health insurance" by American standards.
I have been off adderall for almost 10 months now and I just had a check up.
My leg veins are stable for now.
Wholly crap. I'm sorry you went through that, glad your off.
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On 9/21/2017 at 0:49 AM, Frank B said:
Doctors do not demonize SSRI medications but they should. The sucide risk are very high says it even on the bottle doctors tell patients it's only in very very rare cases. Complete bs doctors care less just quick "fixes" and commissions. Doctors do not care about health they do very little education on any prevention it's only after something happens they claim to have a cure. But normally the cure has so many horrible side effects it leaves you in a worse place. Just listen to commercials for any new drug the hits the market none of them sound like anything I'd ever want to take after hearing the disclaimer. But yet doctors always tell people those risk are very very rare it surely won't happen to you. But of course if it does the doctor will say you knew it had some side effect risk your one of the "rare" ones. People are quick to donate buy a ribbon or whatever to support cancer research. That money goes to pharmaceutical research labs there's a profit based system. Prevention is not their priority finding a drug they can get someone by that will cost a lot is their main goal . How about spending that money towards cancer prevention research?
Why did I quit? Because I was poising my body and knew it from day one. Has quitting resolved my issues? Well I'm not dead pretty sure the direction I was heading so yes guess it has. If your so gullible to think anyone with ADD or not should have amphetamines daily then you are just overlooking the obvious.
I looked up some listed side effects with amphetamines does not even include the long term stuff we deal with. Of course most side effects by the drug companies all claim "rare" "incidence not known" they say these things to give a false sense of security. Must people feel we won't be that one that's someone else, but the reality is if they did testimg for more than one month to get passed by the FDA I'm sure these side effects sure wouldn't be so rare.
The term "Incidence not known" definition 'They know it happened but they didn't keep count. These are usually the ones where a few people have reported it, but nothing was found in controlled studies.'
That's is bullshit many reported it but drug companies deny it since it did not show in their studies for the FDA
Here is a list from the drug companies about amphetamines ...
Rare
- Seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there
- severe mental changes
Incidence not known
- Agitation
- blurred vision
- confusion
- diarrhea
- dizziness
- false or unusual sense of well-being
- fast, irregular, pounding, or racing heartbeat or pulse
- fever
- headache
- nervousness
- overactive reflexes
- pounding in the ears
- restlessness
- shakiness in the legs, arms, hands, or feet
- shivering
- slow or fast heartbeat
- sweating
- talking or acting with excitement you cannot control
- trouble sleeping
- twitching, twisting, or uncontrolled repetitive movements of the tongue, lips, face, arms, or legs
- uncontrolled vocal outbursts or tics (uncontrolled repeated body movements)
Get emergency help immediately if any of the following symptoms of overdose occur while taking amphetamine:
Symptoms of overdose
- Abdominal or stomach cramps
- dark-colored urine
- dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position
- fainting
- muscle cramps or spasms
- muscle pain or stiffness
- nausea
- seizures
- sweating
- unusual tiredness or weakness
( I do want to say I know not all doctors are money hungry ignorant pricks who don't care. Actually have a good friend who is a doctor does a lot of good just spent months in Iraq volunteering helping out victims of war. Now in Florida helping with the hurricane and about to heat to Puerto Rico . He won't even take aspirin if he has a headache, never use a antibiotics saw him at home sick for weeks told him take some damn antibiotics he said no it will pass. I'm sure his patience probably hate him he would hardly ever prescribe anything unless it's the absolute last option.)
100 and 10% agree with you. I was suicidial on birth control...hmm doctors NEVER mention this when telling you to take, same with Effexor when trying to get off (10000x worse than getting off Adderall). I'm now 100% prescription drug free. I was a pharmaceutical rep and believe most docs are money hungry ignorant pricks...glad you have a friend that isn't! Keep him!
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I'm curious what made other people quit or think about quitting Adderall.
Why? It's hard to find Dr's or medical info that demonize it and so much info hails it, so what made you feel you needed to quit or want to quit?
AND, if you quit, did quitting rectify your issue or problem?
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On 9/11/2017 at 1:27 AM, sadderall said:
OH CONGRATSSS!! We're in this together.
How did you notice it stopped working? What's sam-e?
Good advice on keeping no crappy food in the hous. Do you work out?
I notice i've been drinking more actually which isn't good. I also take 10mg of lexapro everyday.
You have such a supportive spirit. Thank you so much
Sorry, internet connection at my house is ridiculously nonexistent and lately zero motivation to even attempt to get online. Now feels like nothing is working, plus husband was home during Irma (usually he's out of town) and we ate worse and drank, and I stopped walking the dog as much.
Walked 3 miles yesterday, but been a rough spell. And I know it has 100% to do with food and drink I am or am not putting in my body AND exercising, easy to get off track and then feel defeated, which is a bad place to be. Wanting to want to start working out! And toyed with getting on an antidepressant again, took myself off Wellbutrin 4 years ago ....Who knows , hope you are doing well.
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I hear ya. I was in high end medical sales, always looked good for my age, fit. Not even sure how or why I got an rx over 10 years ago, but just quit a month ago today. FYI I found out the hard way it really messes with hormones
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Yes it is scary. It's scary as shit. It's only been 1 month for me, and I've been on it for over 10+ years. Everything you think Adderall is making better in your life is a facade. I didn't know this but my husband reminds me because I like to "glamourize" my adderall self...apparently my adderall self was not as spectacular as I thought....and I'm actually ok w/o...hard to stomach or believe.
AND. It will mess up your hormones big time...
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CONGRATS. It's been 1 month for me today also!
The book someone recommended The Mood Cure help me a lot explaining whys, what to try etc. I took L-Tyrosine for first 2 weeks then felt like it stopped, switched to SAM-e and today switch back to both. I try to not concentrate on weight gain, but I also don't let myself have any crap food in the house, so when I snack or graze all night it is on grapes, nuts, raisins...otherwise I know eating crappy would make me feel worse.
I also quit drink the same time, because I know if I drank, I'd feel like crap in am and want to get adderall to get me out of hangover....so hard to have quit both and I definitely miss adderall 100 times more than alcohol....
Getting outside and my dog help through the crappy days...yesterday was hell. Today was fabulous! Guess that's part of it.
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SOOOOOO true. I just turned...ugh 50, and started Adderall 17 years ago...my decreasing levels of hormones has been much worse than most of my friends and one of the main reasons I quit was to hopefully eliminated everything that could be contributing to this horrible way i was feeling....and at 6 months physically MUCH better...motivation, drive, are up and down as is the blahs.... and YES shit storm is about the best way to describe it....