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  1. 9 hours ago, GirlScottie said:

    Do people just call and ask them to stop the script? or go in and tell the Dr in person?

    I don't think the specifics matter near as much as whether you just actually do it or not.  I called my doctor and ended up speaking to a nurse that left him the message. "I am hooked on my prescription adderall.  I have a serious addiction which landed me in the emergency room 2 times.  Please put in my file to never prescribe me these pills again."   Ever since I did that, I've known there is no going back.  Even though I moved from Texas to Ohio, I still believe that message has to be on file somewhere and if I ever tried to get a prescription again, they'd say, "Um, seriously?"  Once your source is cut off, it makes it a 1,000,000 times easier to stay quit.

     

    Let us know how it goes!  You got this!

     

    LT

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  2. Hi Greg,

    Thanks for checking in with me.  Well, I'm not gonna lie. Had a slight hiccup last week, but back on track. I've got a total of 47 days sober now in the past few months which is really great.  No need to count the days I slipped. I'm back on my own recovery program and this one works best for me.  I'm so happy to hear you're at 7 years now! Wow!!  That's where I should be!!  Dang it!  Anyhow, sometimes when I add up all the times I've stopped with success I realize I do actually have like 7 years or so sober since I started at a young age so that makes me happy.  Ok, I'm rambling.  Glad to see so many of you are still active on here and great to be back! :) 

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  3. HC,

    That's so awesome!  I want to show you my favorite website for training plans.  This site will give you training plans for all distances and varieties of races.  I just started my training back for a half Ironman yesterday and it feels great.  I am so insanely out of shape and can't wait to be fit again.  Thank you so much for your help this week.  Means a lot. :)  Day 6 today.

     

    http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51135/Marathon-Training-Guide

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  4. That's so great to hear!  The longer he's off it, he will stabilize and go back to his normal self.  In the beginning, it's such a drastic change. His brain will eventually recalibrate though.  In Smart they have a thing called the 3 p's (patience, persistence, and practice).  Hang in there! :) 

  5. Try to focus on the people you are with instead of worrying about how you will be perceived. If you make it a goal to try and learn as much as you can about the other people, really listen, ask questions, then you'll feel less anxiety and more at ease.  Plus, you'll feel more connected along with gaining a little bit of confidence going into social settings without being high.  The more you do it, the easier it gets!

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  6. Hi Speeder,

    Ok, so right off the bat let me just say that you did what you thought was the best solution to your problems at the moment you decided to get the script filled.  IMHO, I think you need to make a stronger list of reasons for why you don't want to be on it and keep it with you at all times.  You've got to have enough compelling information on hand as evidence of what the long term equation of going back on adderall will look like.  Here are the reasons you listed:

    Reasons for relapse:

    1) Shattered self-esteem (Irrational Belief - I will never accomplish my dreams without adderall.  I am doomed for the rest of my life.)

    2) Reading was harder to focus in law class

    3) Weight gain paranoia

    New Reasons to stay clean (things to remember when trigger thoughts come spiraling down upon you)

    1) Shattered self-esteem is a short term detriment from adderall recovery.  It will take time to rebuild, but the NEW improved self-esteem you will GAIN in recovery will FAR EXCEL anything you had while on adderall because it is authentic and NOT induced by a pill.  As you slowly make progress even doing the smallest of things without adderall you will start feeling more confident in your abilities with it AND carry a POSITIVE feeling of well being knowing you've overcome something EXTREMELY challenging.

    2) Not all reading will be challenging though.  School is temporary.  It will be tough without adderall, but you can readjust and learn to keep trucking along clean.  IF you fail a class, re-take it.  Cut back a class or take a semester off if possible.  Just remember you have to put your recovery first or you will stay stuck in this trap with adderall.

    3) Remind yourself that any weight loss from adderall is NOT permanent.  You can't depend on adderall addiction for the rest of your life to stay lean. Your heart is going to be severely damaged by this.  5 days @ 740 mgs is like 148mg/day!!!  Imagine if you stay dependent for years on end what is going to happen to your internal organs.  Those are what's most important for the REST OF YOUR LIFE.  Once the crash phase is over with stopping, you will be able to get back into a healthy place with everything else.  Just don't mess yourself up for life.

    Ok, so with all that said, just try not to beat yourself up.  I remember relapsing at various times for similar reasons, but I know I was like you and didn't think it through to the future.  All I could see and think about was the here and now.  It really helped me a lot to see the ENTIRE PICTURE and what I wanted for my life towards the end.  I tried to imagine the tape backwards as well.  At the end of my life, what would I want to see that happened while I was here?  Would I want to leave knowing I was addicted to adderall and it destroyed me or did I want something amazing instead?  That non-adderall life you envisioned early on is still there.  Don't let the euphoria of the dream slip away.  You have to stay strong and when you want to use, post on this site first.  There are plenty of people that can help you see the bigger picture when you are clouded by urges and cravings. 

    Stay strong!!!

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  7. Frank,

    I just want to say you are making so much progress!!  You sound like you're finally getting to a better place in recent times and it truly makes me happy to see this!!  

    I can imagine that does hurt, but you are present for them now and in the future and that's all that matters going forward.  They are lucky to have their real dad back in a healthy state of mind.  I'm sure they are very happy about that!

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  8. Traceme,

    There are definitely good reasons for this method.  It is like having a bloody wound that won't heal.  The more you keep picking at it and pulling off the scab, you begin to bleed again.  It just won't heal.  If you want to move on with your life and be with a man that is truly deserving of all the love, energy, and time you have to offer him, then from the sounds of it, it is best to not respond.  You will heal a 1,000 times faster by segregating yourself, grieving the loss, and then start to find a healthier place from which to try and start a new relationship with someone who is ready and wants to reciprocate your love.

    IF he truly wants to make things work with you, he will let you know.  If all he does is throw you half hearted crumbs of affection now and then, do not respond.  Of course he is going to miss you and want to talk to you.  You've been together for all that time and it's not easy to walk away.  But what he's reaching out to you for is probably not what you want it to mean.  Unless he actually is contacting you with a legitimate, "I screwed this up and I want to make this work with us" kind of tangible evidence, leave it alone.  He's wasting valuable years of your life that could be spent with someone who loves you back.  Don't let him do that.

    Wishing you all the best.  

    LT

     

     

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  9. I drank probably 3x as much when on adderall.  It grew to an alarming rate when I lived alone and worked odd shifts/hours.  I'd get my apartment spotless in the day, bills paid, and have everything absolutely perfect.  Then at night I would drink a TON to come down, but sometimes would still not be able to sleep.  It was a disaster.

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  10. The feeling of dependency to something externally outside myself.  It left me feeling powerless and paralyzed when I ran out early, but couldn't get any.  I remember the times I would find myself going off on the doctor's admins if they did not call me back in time to pick up my prescription the day I had it planned.  And then there was the feeling of knowing I was 150% hooked and that I'd never be able to quit for good.  I felt doomed.

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  11. Rachel,

    I started off on Ritalin, then Concerta, then to Adderall.  Yes, they are all stimulants and do the same thing.  Who gives a shit if they are extended release or not. They are speed.  Maybe the psychs should take these pills and see how it works for them before handing them out like candy to their patients.  I am not a psychiatrist, counselor, or have any formal training. However, I am someone that has taken all these drugs along with doing coke and guess what?  They all do the same thing.  They make you high and your brain becomes dependent on them to function.  Screw the psychs and all their medication b.s.  Get clean and you won't have to deal with this nightmare anymore.  No more depending on the pharmacy, scripts, doctor visits, and relying on pills.  I honestly can't believe you are in a program for addiction and they prescribed you yet another stimulant.  Mind blowing.  I was sober for 6 months back in 2003 when I was put on ritalin.  Then I switched to concerta.  These drugs triggered the urge for MORE.  I wanted to keep the high going.  6 months later I relapsed on alcohol and then switched to adderall.  My life fell apart.  Just get clean.  That is my best piece of advice. 

    Best wishes

    To further reiterate my point, this article sums it up.  Although Concerta might not be as strong as adderall, it is still speed.  The effects hit after 40--45 minutes and you get that initial euphoric high for the first hour.  Then it slowly wears off over the next 8-12 hours but you are still left in that robotic trance like zombie state.  Do you really want to live the rest of your life in that state?  Or having to fight urges and cravings for more of the drug?  Just break free from the trap of all of it and do not take any of them.  Find an ADD specialist that can help you find alternative ways to cope with concentration without drugs.

    https://www.drugs.com/illicit/speed.html

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  12. On 7/15/2016 at 3:09 PM, Danquit said:

    I'm at day 78 after quitting and I was just thinking about the two psychotic episodes I had that landed me in the mental hospital when I was abusing Adderall. I remember being in my friend's mom's basement thinking that all of the answers to the world's energy problems were to be found in that basement. I seriously believed there was Atlantean technology buried down there for me to discover and share with the world. The second time was similar, I stayed up for a couple of days researching hidden technology online and was convinced that Tesla had discovered how to transmit power through the air but big energy monopolies squashed the technology. I was so paranoid that I ended up escaping from my roommates and ended up on the side of the highway talking to god who I thought was living in the Sun. These were the two amphetamine induced psychotic episodes that led me to quit for good. Looking back though, everything I did on Adderall was kinda crazy. 

    Omg, Danquit!!!  My incident was so similar to yours!  I thought I had created a global strategy for my company and I created 1,000's of jobs for my company.  I thought I had launched a world phenomena that caught on at the emergency room I was staying at.  I thought there was a control desk and everyone was watching me.  I was so far gone!!  Adderall is some crazy shit!!!

     

     

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