Hi @Krae19&@ALA. I have been clean since January 16th . I thought it was February but I had to look back at my texting and it was January 16th so I've been clean longer than I thought! I started in 2018 I believe. I was clean several years before that then started up again. I cleaned new construction for 20 years so it was my crutch. "I needed" it. I had to be a perfectionist at my job. It was taking a toll on my body. I am quite a bit older than you two and it is bad My arms were killing me my hands were stiff I ached all over, but I blamed the hard work I was doing I had high blood pressure I was on a mission to kill myself I guess. I just live in denial. When I don't take it I cry a lot I think I have gotten past that finally but when I would get back on it after quitting I would feel so on top of the world. In February 2019 we took on two little granddaughters 9 months and 2 So I retired from new construction cleaning and started over raising children. we were just at the beginning of remodeling our house and so we had a lot going on now we really have a lot going on so I kept taking it. Praise God after 3 years Mom really got her act together and now we're back to being Grandma and Grandpa. I also take care of my 38-year-old disabled son who requires 24-hour care I get paid to do that and I keep him 3 days a week 24-hour shift He's not too much work just mentally. He had a bad reaction to his DPT shots at 2 months and he's basically 9 months to2 years. He's nonverbal and can be aggressive. I am sorry I am writing a book I just get talking and I never quit. So I will quit rambling I can tell you more later anyway my point being I totally understand where you are coming from and why we do what we do. I am so glad to be clean but I miss it I don't want to do it again because I want to live to see my grandchildren grow up I am so glad I found this group because you guys all know where I'm coming from. My husband has a little bit of a hard time understanding it because he is not an addictive type person and I totally am. Okay I'm going to say goodnight for now. Please reach out to me if there's anything you would like to talk about. I have pretty much been there done that!!