Frank B
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Yesterday was a little lazy think that's just what we have to adjust to after quitting. Some days you'll feel u can take on the world other days binge watching Netflix may be your goal. But it's good to know those days full of energy and determination come back just not everyday but that's not natural anyways why we burned ourselves out on this medication.
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Side note got in a huge argument with someone I went to high school on fb with she is nurse. I was talking on fb about the irresponsibility in general in reguards to pushing medication like Prozac that end up doing more harm vs good. She says the risk are justified in severe depression and no she does not feel guilty if someone were to kill themselves or someone else after being subscribed this medication by her. She feels ultimately no pill can make you do anything against your will. So some doctors and nurses play the religion card and feel no liability because evil is evil no pill can make someone do something evil no one ever loses control to choose between right and wrong. Even though they are administering drugs that literally change ones brain chemistry. I think it's high time the medical community keeps its fucking religious beliefs at home and actually understand the science behind these medications they push and take some liability. It's sure easy for them to blame actions on Satan instead of the mind altering drug they give people. They are so blind in religious faith they actually beleive themselves.
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3 hours ago, Speeder906 said:
Thank you everyone for the advice it's truly so appreciated. I was feeling weird all day yesterday but not because of anything withdrawal related but because I just hated the idea of taking the Prozac. I also hear from people that it makes their depression worse. I was supposed to start taking it today but I don't think I will. If anything I think I'd rather have more natural remidies. Like I take l theanine for my anxiety and it has always worked well. I'd just rather not replace one pill for another.
Be honest you'd be better off staying a adderall junkie vs going on Prozac just my opinion but it's some really bad shit fucks with your head big time. Many suicides , family murder /suicides mass shootings are linked to Prozac. Big Pharma pays out a ton of money to keep the media from really making this known. Go to the library check out some books on Prozac before you ever take it. Or just google Prozac suicides etc. I wish I researched it myself before agreeing on taking it but got off it quick only 3 weeks. Sure doctors say it gets better longer u take it. Sorry no it doesn't if it doesn't make you off yourself first couple weeks you become a zombie you won't be happy or sad then u become dependent on it just like addy but with really no benefits as adderal did in its early days for us.
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16 hours ago, Cheeri0 said:
Hey Speeder - just to be frank with you: this is gonna get worse before it gets better. In about two weeks, you're going to feel so full of lethargy that your mind is gonna start playing tricks on you. You'll remember your Psych's suggestion about ritalin and you'll start thinking to yourself "hmmm maybe he's right, maybe that would work." Don't let it win. Be clear with him upfront that you're not interested in taking any stimulants, ever, period, point blank. They all lead down the same miserable road for addicts, and you've continuously proven you are one.
As far as the prozac is concerned, they put me on it for a month or two back in my using days. It's definitely the most "up" SSRI. Won't immediately put you to sleep like zoloft will, but it will tucker you out. So be prepared for some foggyness. I've personally been on the 0 pharmaceutical train ever since I quit adderall (I think it's the most direct road to sanity, and especially worth trying for us younger folks), but antidepressants have helped a lot of people here so do what feels right for your body. Just don't take something you aren't sure you need.
Best of luck, bud. Congrats - you made a huge step. Stay strong and don't fuck it up.
Cheerio
Agree antidepressants can make you worse SSRI 'Prozac' made me go crazy I felt the need to cut myself open with a knife it was crazy. Luckily I stopped before doing anything stupid literally slapped myself in the face multiple times to come back to reality. I will say Wellbutrin did help started about a year into being off adderall. It's a non ssri so if u must try something I'd suggest that route. Nothing in the early days weeks months will help much you'll be constantly craving a replacement the only thing is time alone of the drug that will start gettin your natural energy back to normal.
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Don't know if I have rested so much over the past year plus all the sudden I have tons of stored energy but lately I have had very little sleep sometimes like even little as 3 hrs but wide awake all day working doing stuff no rest and not really tired. Anyone have this happen at whatever damn month I'm on 16 , 18 hell I forget Bluemoon keeps track I think we both have same quit date lol. " I still hate they never brought back our time tickers on here!"
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8 hours ago, Speeder906 said:
I want this on a plaque hanging on the fucking wall
Print that quote in large ass font and literally hang it on your fucking wall.
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On 6/6/2017 at 10:42 PM, Jmans407 said:
Thanks for the replies you guys.
Frank, these extreme dosages were the result of the medication not being fully absorbed. An Adderall specialist writes these prescriptions.
Mentally, I feel okay. Physically, perfectly fine. I play baseball 3-5 days a week. After going through the ups and downs of Adderall on a daily basis for the last 16 years, I'm kind of growing tired of it. I want consistency. Adderall affects my thoughts and emotions daily and I want to know if there's more to life than this. Without Adderall, for all I know, I could completely evolve as a person.
I haven't gone a day without taking it in about 10 years. Back in middle school I forgot one day and I remember having an extreme urge to be very annoying along with a lack of motivation and coordination. I'm pretty certain that if I decided to quit Adderall I would have to be checked into an inpatient rehab facility. Couldn't do it on my own. I want to do this over the summer but the problem is, I don't have that kind of time. I work all summer until September when school starts again. One thing I think about is that if I do begin that process of quitting and ridding my body of Adderall completely, there's no going back forever. What if I do still need it? What if I cannot focus without it once I'm off?
Also, I've never abused it, been pretty good about it.
Your young still but one day it's going to hit u like a ton of bricks. With school sports job it's never going to be "the right time to quit" seems a lot of baseball stars take this shit you might know Chris Davis 1st baseman Baltimore he takes it and u know back in 2014 his addiction really helped my Royals easily sweep the Orioles post season because he was not eligible to play because in a drug test it showed up as a PED. In 2015 off it he couldn't do shit off addy so guess what 2016 he got a doctors excuse he was ADD then being allowed to take it by MLB all the sudden he was a great player again. I see him as a cheater no different than Barry Bonds and steroids but he makes multi millions so he can live with it but deep down he knows just as I did taking it he is cheating it's not normal and eventually your going to pay for it one way or another.
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I think your situation is fucked up and should have the right to sue your doctors for creating a life long amphetamine addiction in someone who should have never been put on it. Your extreme dosages seems to be criminal especially given the health risk you have. I hope you have a desire to quit because think it's not really a option to continue on at your pace by the time a doctor finds irregularity in your heart probably be too late. But hey then they can always make more money off you to treat that. See it for what it is your a addict doctors are your drug dealers they beleive you'll be a lifelong consumer started you very very young and whatever damage they do to you will only profit them more. Sorry maybe not what you want to hear but that's my belief and sure a few others on here may see it that way also.
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It's crazy when we finally realize this drug makes us worse yet our brain says take more and more. You got to take control of your thoughts no longer let that addicted side of your brain have control. It's not a easy fight and why we take so long to finally commit to quitting. Hopefully this will be the wake up call you need knowing you could probably take your entire bottle in one day but it will never make you the focused and productive person it did when you first started. Good luck and go to those NA meetings.
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Here is the thing on addy you never really have dreams often because you never really get into that deep sleep "I think at least" . I recall after quitting having dreams for the first time in a long time. I think the dreams of terror have nothing to do with quitting but having dreams you recall do. Btw I have had dreams of fighting before one time elbowed my girlfriend in the head I felt really bad but she was ok. Maybe try mediation before bed or listen I some peaceful music. Or say fuck it listen to some Pantera and get ready to rumble in your sleep can be fun at times long as u don't hurt someone laying next to you.
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It's good to tell your doctor however timeline a doctor will suggest probably be way longer than needed. I did it in 3-4 months doctor will say a year or more I just couldn't do that when I make my mind up on quitting not going to dick around forever to make it a little easier actually think that long just makes it harder.
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It does go away just takes a long ass time to get to that point. I sort of look at the first year your paying the devil back for all those years of using and pretty much suffer but make it through with will power alone. After a year still seems like it wtf this is it I've been off a year and I'm still blah. Then you get a year and couple months finally your done paying your due's and you really start to live that better life that you once recalled before u ever got into this shit.
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I had a late night out when I replied last lol. I can't drink like I use to and paid for it the next day but had fun saw friends hadn't seen in years.
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5 hours ago, Nicole88 said:
This is so great, Frank. No doubt this process can be painfully slow but glad you're finally making it out the other side. I am hoping for better days in the near future as well!
Thanks and I love all if you who have helped me get this far I'm so happy I found this group!
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I feel now things are really getting back to normal for those keeping tabs I stopped nov 27th 2015. The dieting and exercise helped no doubt but the only real cure i feel now is getting so far away from that quit date your subconscious gives up the fight to say you need adderall to function on a daily basis. I'm actually climbing out of my huge debt I never thought I'd get over. Enjoying life wanting to go out , enjoying my kids more , listing to music again not just sports talk radio not sure why but that's all I really wanted listenen to until recently. If you can somehow get this far it gets better I promise but it's been a damn battle and I know seems like it will never end. This is the first time I honestly feel like I'm finally winning this fight before I was just making myself do it no matter how I felt. Hope this is inspirational if you look at my long list of post it seems I was destin to give in but I'm a stubborn sob for better or worse and told myself I'd never do it or OxyContin again and haven't since.
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"Can't spell DAD without ADD" , funny quote from new mystery science theater 3000 episode.
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Well the guy who made this original post name was "sciencesuccess" he all but put up a link to the India sources. Looks like it was probably a DEA sting operation you know something to nail us addicts because we are the fucking problem. Hit someone when they are down make life worse yep that will get people on the right path or just maybe the correctional facilities are a money making scam and the government is in on it.., no that can't be true lmao.
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Well the guy who made this original post name was "sciencesuccess" he all but put up a link to the India sources. Looks like it was probably a DEA sting operation you know something to nail us addicts because we are the fucking problem. Hit someone when they are down make life worse yep that will get people on the right path or just maybe the correctional facilities are a money making scam and the government is in on it.., no that can't be true lmao.
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PIcs please? Ha just kidding. Well the first thing you must decide if you really want to quit, if your not 100% then it's kind of pointless. It sounds like your justifying reasons to yourself of why u take it. I did that for 9 years but knew what it was doing. The only thing I can say is it seems like the people who were only on it a year or two have a lot quicker recovery time and less long term damage after quiting so it's something to consider. I'm a year and 6 months clean it's getting better but still not easy.
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Feels good to help people part of why I really like my job.
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O you can bullshit anything hell you can become president doing that. Well I can say doing what you enjoy helps. I drive around listing to podcast of hvac talk that's how big of dork I'am but enjoy what I do. At 10 months in I was not feeling that way yet.
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On 5/7/2017 at 9:47 PM, Spirit76 said:
Thank you for your advice. My situation is very similar to yours. I have quit for 3 years in the past and I know I can do it again. Great idea. I am going to just relax and have faith it will all work out. And I will quit trying to take on everything at work in the meantime, because i don't need to. I have just been a people pleaser/perfectionist for too long. And I will accept that right now I can't be that. Thank you. It's comforting to know there are others out there like me!
How did you go 3 years free then dive back into this? Just curious that sort of scares me to be honest.
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I just see my regular doctor and basically I diagnosed and prescribed what I needed. It's sad but they just ask what do u want to be on? Be like me going to a house with a no cooling call telling the customer, "Just pick out a random part from my van it should fix your problem."
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Are u fucking serious? That's crazy just FYI Wellbutrin will help you not gain weight also.
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Finals week relapse and my mental breakdown (update)
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Interesting national story on SSRI http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/michelle-carter’s-ssri-hobbled-her-empathy-psychiatrist-says/ar-BBCzaOv?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=U146DHP
Could the pill take away this girls empathy to push this kid to kill himself? Id say yes, again people who have been on this for along period of time state they have little to no feelings one way or another. Sure many will say the girl was just bad and using the SSRi as a excuse. Well you know its the same when people off themselves on it, "Well he was already depressed so you can't blame the medication." That is why these pill makers always win the acts committed on these pills are so outrageous one who has never experienced this medication has no idea what it can do. Anyways sorry to hijack your post with my anti SSRI rant.